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Originally posted by Dragiero
As far as creationism and evolution goes it has to be one or the other. The two can't be mixed together, it just doesn't work. The earth can be 6000 years old and at the same time be created in six days. Read the bible and do the generational math; you'll get a number around 6000. Besides, there is more scientific evidence for the bible than there is for evolution( considering that the isn't any scientific evidence for evolution). WHich is more believable anyway: that man was made or that he was for in a chemical soup in a rock?.
No offense to you(just all of it), but you're a fool to believe that there is logic behind evolution. There is virtually no scientific evidence that gives evolution any sort of support,
where there is lot's more evidence supporting biblical claims.
Tell me what you really know about evolution?
Is it logical to believe that(according to evolution) living orginisms came from a soup of chemicals?
Is it logical to believe that something that is so completly, so unimaginabley, so uncomprehensibley, so irreducebley complex such as the human body and its functions as well as all living creatures and their universe of complexity all happened merely by chance?
According to the laws of chance the time it took for the earth to supposidly form is comepletly wrong. The chances of a human being made in the randomness of space and time are 537638403702023 to the power of 10 to the 45000000000 to 1. Now there is something in the laws of chance that is how much time it takes for randomness to have any specific outcome; 4500000000 compare to the odds might as well be here and now.
Originally posted by Dragiero
I also say that yes natural selection does work and is truely and completly real, but think about it, in natural selection it may change a feature of a creature, but never has it been known (today) to cause a species to change entirely into another species. In their gene pool that mutation exist, but in order for evolution to work you have to completely change nearly everything about that creature into something else entirely and natural selection doesn't do that. It only works on things that are within the gene pool and unless you're telling me that there is a recorded incident of natural selection changing the genes the way evolution states it did, then this fact remains.
SO if there is evidence of evolution then you should be able to tell me what it is.
After all I can tell you much scientific evidence behind the Bible.
If you think that the human body doesn't have irreducable complexity than watch unlocking the mysteries of life on youtube or simply take a biology class.
I used to be taught evolution (didn't buy most of it ) and I have heard it stated that we formed in a chemical soup. Speaking of which you should be able to tell what chemicals exist that can all just be thrown together that won't destroy each other, because last I checked a soup of chemicals, no matter how many there are, don't produce anything.
You also think that evolution isn't randomness, so tell me what is it then if it is not intelligent design or randomness.
Humans are like watches in a way; everything that is there all works together harmoniously, just like a watch. However, if you take something away from it then the whole system collaspes, which by the way is called IRREDUCABLE COMPLEXITY.
Originally posted by gncnew
I will say this though - they still have yet to find that "missing" link... they still can't figure out how we went from monkey (animal) to homo-erectus....
[edit on 19-5-2010 by gncnew]
Some people want a logical world of people who can not have faith and some people want a faithful world that ignores logic.
You used a cake in your example; it is a good example, but think about it. The cake had to be formed, had to be made into what it is before it is placed in an oven . It requires the use of someone to mix the ingredients together in the right way in the right order before it is ready to bake.
The same goes for evolution. Let's say that evolution is completely and entirely true, how did the matter that is there get there? Let's say it was the big bang, how did the matter for the big bang get there?
If you dug, say 200 miles into the earth and then you found a dollar bill. Would you say that this bill had formed over millions of years? Of course not, what is it about the dollar that you would say is not formed over millions of years?
Tell me what things of the bible you want scientific evidence for or do you just want things in general?