Originally posted by dbrandt

Originally posted by Zipdot

There is no way that megalodon sharks were herbivorous. Please source your arguments. I'm quite familiar with the Bible, and I am not aware of any passages that state that before Noah's flood, all animals ate plants.

Genesis 1:30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

This does not mean that the animals did not eat meat, it just said that God gave plants as food to animals.

EDIT: Do you think that megalodon sharks were herbivorous?

Zip

[edit on 6/30/2005 by Zipdot]

Originally posted by Zipdot

Speaking of dogs in the Bible, here are some weird quotes:

Pro 26:11 As a dog returneth to his vomit, [so] a fool returneth to his folly.
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2Pe 2:22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog [is] turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.

What were they feeding these dogs?

Proverb 26:11
I think you are missing the point with the 2 verses. God is trying to teach us something. A dog can eat something that it shouldn't and become sick. Once it's in the stomach and the digestive system doesn't like it the dog will vomit it back up. OK you would think the dog would think I just atew this and threw it up so I guess I shouldn't have eaten that. But no, the dog will proceed to eat what it just threw up. He didn't learn anything. That's not a pretty sight to watch either.

A foolish man or woman will do the same thing. They could be involved in something harmful and pay the consequences for it(example-say taking a drug that almost kills them)and you would think the person would say, "I nearly died I better not do that again." But yet there are some who will get out of the hospital and do the same thing. That also is not a pretty sight to watch.

2 Peter2:22
The dog thing is mentioned again because God is trying to emphasize something to us.

The pig thing is you can take a pig and give it the best bath it ever had with soap and shampoo and maybe spray on a little perfume afterwards. That same pig can 2 minutes later find a mud hole and dive in and be completely dirty again. Why because that is in it's nature. The outside of the pig was cleaned up and not the inside. Relate that too people. Without a change of a person's nature on the inside, with the acceptance of Christ as Savior, we will continue to engage in wrong activities and desires.

I know, I was just kidding. Anyway, what do you think about the rest of my posts - the megalodon question and the animal kindness/fright question? You ignored them.

Zip

Originally posted by Zipdot
There is no way that megalodon sharks were herbivorous. Please source your arguments. I'm quite familiar with the Bible, and I am not aware of any passages that state that before Noah's flood, all animals ate plants.

From my other post, God created people and animals as vegeterians. Death entered creation with the sin of Adam and Eve. Before their disobedience there was no death. Death came after their sin. Since I wasn't there I don't know what sea creatures ate before sin entered creation but there was no death until then.

[waving hand in air franticly] OH OH I KNOW THIS ONE ME ME PLEASE ME !!!

I was raised Christian [ugh], the ideology and teaching (then at least, 20+yrs) was that the earth was created with age.

I always asked [them] why with age? It still goes un-answered. Guess it filled in their gap. Hell with it, if it doesn't fit - make it up as ya go.

As for the megalodon not being into herbs, um, has everyone forgotten how damn well rich the ocean is of plant life? Seaweed alone is welll known for inadvertantly creating floating islands of itself literally in the sq. miles of spread.

That's not me defending the Bible or anything, as I am niether Creationist nor Evoloutionist, I'm a dontgiveadamnilist.
Just pointing out a non-mentioned yet very pertinant fact.

Misfit

Originally posted by dbrandt
Since I wasn't there I don't know what sea creatures ate before sin entered creation but there was no death until then.

That's quite a coincidence, the authors of the Bible weren't there, either.

Zip

Originally posted by Zipdot
Seeweed. Right.

I did not imply they ate seaweed. I simply brought to forefront the fact that there is vast amounts of plant life to sustain the lives as such creatures as this.

Were all the fish/mammals in the ocean all carnivorous - life as they know it would have killed it all off.

Also - the fact that any given animal is large in size, does not imply it eats only meat. Read about many Dinosaurs?

Misfit

Originally posted by Zipdot

Originally posted by dbrandt
Since I wasn't there I don't know what sea creatures ate before sin entered creation but there was no death until then.

That's quite a coincidence, the authors of the Bible weren't there, either.

Zip

What I mean is, the verse I quoted before Genesis 1:30 specifically tells us about land creatures, it doesn't mention sea creatures. So we are kind of left without an answer. Death came after sin. So I guess my guess would be sea vegetation. Does it matter right now what sea creatures before the flood ate, not really. It would be kind of neat to know for sure but focusing on that dilema takes your focus off the real message of the Bible, Jesus Christ. So it's cool to throw around ideas about sea creatures and discuss it but lets not get bogged down in it.

As far as the people who physically wrote the Bible, right they weren't there. Some people who did write parts of the Bible saw visions and/or were transported to the future to see it.

But if you are going to believe the Bible, then you believe all of it or you might as well believe none of it. It's not a pick and choose book. I like that part, but I don't like that part so I choose not to believe that part.

So I believe it all. And on the basis of that, the Bible tells us that God inspired the writers of the Bible with what He wanted them to write. Genesis is credited to being written by Moses, so that means God spoke to him as to what to write down.

Originally posted by Zipdot
Anyway, what do you think about the rest of my posts - the megalodon question and the animal kindness/fright question? You ignored them.

Zip

The animal kindness fright thing. Are there wild canines, yes. Wolves, coyotes, dingos etc. Can a dog be wild and dangerous, yes. There have been instances of pet dogs killing adults and kids. Are all dogs wild, no. If you establish a relationship with a puppy and feed it, it trusts you and becomes used to you and it's temperment usually should be nice with proper care and treatment.

Originally posted by Zipdot
Not necessarily. Since this is unlikely, and there is no proof of this happening either with ancient or modern man, I must assume that with no evidence, this didn't take place - I believe that the alternative happened - the stories were completely fabricated.

It simply appears that, at least most of it, was written as a fable by humans who were intelligent for their time, but their testimony is not withstanding the test of time.

To me, anyways.

Zip

Regarding the Bible, you think it's false I think it's true. Everyone is faced with that decision, and everyone must individually make that decision. It's the same with Jesus Christ, who is the centerpeice of the Bible, everyone must individually decide who He is also. Is He the Savior or not.