I've been following along with your discussion here, and believe that I might have some input. I come from a background where Christianity was very
much ingrained in my belief system as I was being reared, yet I am a scientist by profession. You may find
my other recent thread
on a similar topic interesting, and I'd invite you to
join in over there too!
I will try to make my comments without interjecting disrespect for the Christian religion, but I have to preface them by saying that it is difficult
for me. I have seen so many people over the years use Christianity for the basis of bigotry and hatred, that it is sometimes hard for me to realize
that not every Christian feels this way. Those of you who are Christian on this board, I want to lend my respect to you. It is not your beliefs that
bother me - I think everyone should be allowed to believe or do whatever they want to, as long as it isn't harming anyone. The innate problem I see
with Christianity is its necessity to spread to everyone else. I will never understand why Christians aren't able to keep the religion to themselves
- it is a very personal thing, after all. Instead, they feel it necessary to "save the world", by giving their 'knowledge' about Jesus to everyone
else. They seem to have a difficult time just accepting that other people may not want or need to subscribe to their beliefs.
Therein lies the problem, I feel, when you mix this group with a bunch of other people who subscribe to all different types of philosophies. We share
a country together, mixing politics, values, careers, and everyday lives. Since we have so many people of differing philosophies (including
Christians) involved in the country, we must
include everyone in our decisions, not just the majority (or even the perceived majority).
Our public schools must take everyone's beliefs into account when subjecting our children to educational topics. Prayer in school? Forget about it -
you can't possibly include everyone's religion. Creationism? Forget about that too - what about the Buddhists? Or the Taoists? Or the Muslims? Or
Atheists? Etc., etc. etc. Evolution? Here is the problem...
of Evolution is one of the fundamental scientific topics. It is the basis for many other scientific issues, that, if someone were to
pursue a career in the sciences, they would find that it is necessary to know or at least understand the concept.
you will find an explanation of scientific terminology about Laws, Theories, and Hypotheses. If you
don't want to look at it, here's the important part:
A theory is an explanation of a set of related observations or events based upon proven hypotheses and verified multiple times by detached
groups of researchers. One scientist cannot create a theory; he can only create a hypothesis. In general, both a scientific theory and a scientific
law are accepted to be true by the scientific community as a whole. Both are used to make predictions of events. Both are used to advance technology.
So, now we have this problem. The scientific community, having made multiple observations that prove the original hypothesis to be true, accepts
evolution as a theory, meaning, we believe it to be true.
So, is this just a differing philosophy? Should we teach science in our schools without addressing either
evolution or creationism? That is how
I am leaning. Personally, I don't see why Christians can't accept basic scientific theories - it is
science, after all. Why not find a way to
make it jive with your book? As someone who was raised as a Christian (and, no, I'm not one anymore in case you didn't get that already) by a parent
who was also a scientist, I know
you can mesh the two together. I remember my father telling me the "God directed evolution" story. And I
also remember his scientific Christian friends talking about how the phrase in the bible "Let there be light" sounds an awful lot like the Big Bang
What is my point, you are asking? Well, I think we all need to find a way to live together. I see conservative Republicans (many, many Christians)
referring to the "Angry Left". There's a reason why we're angry. We don't want your philosophy forced on us. It is infiltrating our politics, our
schools, our everyday lives! I'm tired of hearing "God bless America" when I don't even believe in a God. This country isn't about majorities -
it is supposed to be for everyone
. Since I subscribe to that belief, then I guess we need to take a scientifically accepted and believed
out of the public schools. But, if we do that, then Christians shouldn't be allowed to become scientists, because you can't be a scientist
and not accept the Theory of Evolution. I remember taking classes where my science teachers would tell the class they could
be both (why is it
that scientists in general are more accepting of Christians than vice versa?). But, conservative Christians in this country are going to make it
impossible for someone to subscribe to both beliefs. If I were a liberal Christian, I'd be furious!
There, that ought to stir up the pot a little...
[edit on 14-7-2005 by Tidepooler]