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The 787 will be the first LCA to tout a first-of-a-kind composite fuselage and wing, and will consist of 50 percent composite materials, 20 percent aluminum, 15 percent titanium......
Originally posted by sminkeypinkey
Fred will be along shortly.......
Originally posted by Stealth Spy
and what's the LCA in
The 787 will be the first LCA to tout a first-of-a-kind composite fuselage and wing, and will consist of 50 percent composite materials, 20 percent aluminum, 15 percent titanium......
??
Also I admit my knowledge deficit about all composite structures, but perhaps it is not possible to put in a fuselage plug to make the plane bigger down the road??
All in all I have more faith in the 787 than the A380. It just seems more efficient for the time being.
Originally posted by waynos
The A380 as a 'mega-twin'? Now thats a new one on me as well Richard
Originally posted by waynos
I tried to put those same economic and logistical arguments in favour of the A380 in another thread the other day but you word it so much better than I do.
Another thing to wonder at is the max takeoff weight for the A380-900 is roughly 590,000kg while the wing loading limits are specced for 800,000kg - thats some expansion available in the wing loading, you have to wonder whats in store there!
Originally posted by FredT
At Richards request, I will not spend alot of time dwelling on the subsadies issue except to address the Washington State tax issue. The bill that allows this is not Boeing specific. Should Airbus chose to build planes in the area, it would recieve the same breaks and benifits
(1)(a) Chapter . . ., Laws of 2003 1st sp. sess. (this act) takes effect on the first day of the month in which the governor and a manufacturer of commercial airplanes sign a memorandum of agreement regarding an affirmative final decision to site a significant commercial airplane final assembly facility in Washington state. The department shall provide notic eof the effective date of chapter..., Laws of 2003 1st sp. sess. (this act) to affected taxpayers, the legislature, and others as deemed appropriate by the department.
(b) Chapter . . ., Laws of 2003 1st sp. sess. (this act) is contingent upon the siting of a significant commercial airplane final assembly facility in the state of Washington. If a memorandum of agreement under subsection (1) of this section is not signed by June 30, 2005, chapter . . ., Laws of 2003 1st sp. sess. (this act) is null and void.
31 (c)
(i)The department shall make a determination regarding the date final assembly of a superefficient airplane begins in Washington state. The rates in (13)(a)(ii) and (b)(ii) take effect the first day of the month such assembly begins, or July 1, 2007, whichever is later. The department shall provide notice of the effective date of such rates to affected taxpayers, the legislature, and others as deemed appropriate by the department.
(ii) If on December 31, 2007, final assembly of a superefficient airplane has not begun in Washington state, the department shall provide notice of such to affected taxpayers, the legislature, and others as deemed appropriate by the department.
(2) The definitions in this subsection apply throughout this section.
(a) "Commercial airplane" has its ordinary meaning, which is an airplane certified by the federal aviation administration for transporting persons or property, and any military derivative of such an airplane.
(b) "Component" means a part or system certified by the federal aviation administration for installation or assembly into a commercial airplane.
(c) "Final assembly of a superefficient airplane" means the activity of assembling an airplane from components parts necessary for its mechanical operation such that the finished commercial airplane is ready to deliver to the ultimate consumer.
(d)"Significantcommercialairplanefinalassemblyfacility"means a location with the capacity to produce at least thirty-six superefficient airplanes a year.
(e) "Siting" means a final decision by a manufacturer to locate a significant commercial airplane final assembly facility in Washington state.
(f) "Superefficient airplane" means a twin aisle airplane that carries between two hundred and three hundred fifty passengers, with a range of more than seven thousand two hundred nautical miles, a cruising speed of approximately mach .85, and that uses fifteen to twenty percent less fuel than other similar airplanes on the market.