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reply posted on 27-11-2007 @ 01:33 AM by hedragon


Hi all
An interesting and revealing view to approaching our ancestorial history for me, is to look at the findings of Zacharia Sitchin's research over a long period. I have only started to research his material in correlation with material from other researchers and have come to the conclusion that in order to see the picture, findings from all research fields must be brought together to complete the puzzle. Researchers focus on their own disciplines and make their own claims - I try to put facts together in my own little way to gain some understanding and to make sense of it all.
Interestingly, when I look at the emerging picture, all facts complement each other instead of conflict. (especially in terms of events described in the Old Testament of the Holy Bible). Search for the missing books of Jasher and Enoch, download them and read and discover why these highly important books frightened the compilers of the Old Testament and why they were excised from the Bible. What you will read here finds an echo in the "Lost book of Enki".
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reply posted on 19-6-2008 @ 05:39 AM by iesus_freak



Originally posted by Aelita
I keep wondering why the creationist folks are so hung up on the evolution aspect (or lack of such). The Universe is so incredibly rich in all kinds of phenomena, which really beg a question about how they ever came to be. Even the structures of the matter disctribution detected in large scale sky surveys.

My theory is that most of these people don't know much about science in general... While the evolution is on the surface because well, animals are easy to observe.

i can answer that for you most people dont believe in the big bbang or not because from birth they ere told to sdo so but i can gladly say that i dont believe in evolution b/c lack of evidence it is a nonsensical idea and there is even less evidence now i dont think that they should teach evolution in schools as welll b/c

1 they are willing to take the ten commandments out of a public place to not offend other religions but cant remove evolution for christians

2 evolution has lost much of its credibility to science

3 the theory contradicts much of what theyve been taught where did the beginning of evolution began sir spontaneos generation i thaught pastuer already disproved that how can these things be "progressing in complexity" if the laws of thermodynamics clearly contradict that statement


there are more reasons but im too lazy to put all of them a good reading would be by Scott M. Huse in "The Collapse of Evolution"



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reply posted on 19-6-2008 @ 05:46 AM by iesus_freak



Originally posted by hedragon
Hi all
An interesting and revealing view to approaching our ancestorial history for me, is to look at the findings of Zacharia Sitchin's research over a long period. I have only started to research his material in correlation with material from other researchers and have come to the conclusion that in order to see the picture, findings from all research fields must be brought together to complete the puzzle. Researchers focus on their own disciplines and make their own claims - I try to put facts together in my own little way to gain some understanding and to make sense of it all.
Interestingly, when I look at the emerging picture, all facts complement each other instead of conflict. (especially in terms of events described in the Old Testament of the Holy Bible). Search for the missing books of Jasher and Enoch, download them and read and discover why these highly important books frightened the compilers of the Old Testament and why they were excised from the Bible. What you will read here finds an echo in the "Lost book of Enki".
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a lot of them dont conflict htat supposedly conflicted before but no offense you arent really SUDYING the bible you are looking at small portions of it and if you looked at the whole pic then you will realize that they still do contradict

jasher and enoch are onn of the many forgotten books that i include to be inspired and i believe in a little bit ore to say most of sitchens theorie im reading him now nd hes on what ive believed nd told my family about for quit a while



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reply posted on 19-6-2008 @ 05:53 AM by iesus_freak



Originally posted by skep
Couldn't have said it better myself. In fact, I have tried to explain to some in here that the use of theory to describe some idea they have or mantra they've been fed is invalid. I suggested they attempt to understand what a theory is and the requirements a theory must meet without giving them the correct definition. I feel they should have to spend 10 minutes to find out on their own.
Crristians and other fundies (and this is not say that most christians are fundies because the majority are not. Fundies make up about 17 to 19 % of professing chriatians most of whom are patently insincere in their claimed belief).
I think the main reason christians hate evolution is that for those of them who read and comprehend above the 6th grade level (and this is not the majority) know that evolution killed religion as it is practiced in this country and most middle eastern countries. The irony here is that evolution has not the least bit of interest in religion, even the fundie kind. The reccognition of evolution is not open to debate. It is not a matter of opinion, as you well know, it is sound theory and therefore not relatefd to religion or other metaphysics in any way.
skep
then give me the proof you have on evolution

let me give you a secret i have a rule in my researching i always investigate both arguments thoroughly as possible until i reach a conclusion and even if the side that contradicts what i believe in most to keep a clear conscience i have to believe in it

i did that with ID and TOE and found out evolution doesnt have any solid proof of itself other thant the geologic timetable and that can be disproved if you believe in the Gap Theory in craetionism



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reply posted on 19-6-2008 @ 05:58 AM by iesus_freak


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you Know what i find all of you are very narrow mindeed you guyss need to chill out and w/o letting opinion get in tthe way learn ea. others arguments if the creationists get stumped and cant say anything else you should all beleive in evolution b/c you got proved wrong and vice versa but before any of you declare victory give people time to answer it other people as well



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reply posted on 21-6-2008 @ 05:39 PM by iesus_freak


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i believe in Intelligent design theres no denying it but i think we should tech creationism AND evolution so the students can pick for themselves evolutionists are always accusing creationist of bing narrow minded when in all reality most of the people that believe on either side havent investigated what theyre fighting againts(ie evolutionists havent investigated all aspects of cretionism and vice versa) in fear of getting proved wrong

i urge everyone to investigate every part of each argument and not just others opinions



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reply posted on 21-6-2008 @ 06:07 PM by JPhish



Originally posted by skep
My guess is that fundamentalists make up less than 20% of our population
skep

the world population or the United states?


The first time a theory fails at any of these it is thrown out the closest window.

that's the way science use to operate, but no longer. Now when contradictory evidence arises, it is skewed, swept under the rug, thrown out the proverbial window; or simply tossed into the crowded skeleton closet. Scientists today do not like being wrong. Things are not carried out the way they always were, and haven't been ever since Darwin and Einstein. Everyone is too busy sitting on either, or both of their laps to realize that there are many blaring fallacies in their theories. Science, an inherently subjective art, has been tainted further by personal, commercial and political agenda.



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