Originally posted by carpediem
As for christmas being pagan
it is the x-mas tree and the decorations that are pagan, not the celebration!
The pagan sabbat of Yule is celebrated on either December 20th, 21st, or 22nd., and has been dated back 5000 years. The word "Yule" itself is of
Scandanavian origin meaning "wheel", as in the wheel of the year, change of seasons, etc. The people would burn an oak Yule log in honor of Thor,
the Teutonic god of fire and courage, in hopes that by doing so it would encourage him to bring back the sun, as opposed to the dark and cold of
winter.