Dan Brown's "The Solomon Key"

Dan Brown, author of the ultra best selling "Da Vinci Code", is set to release "the Solomon Key" soon, a sequel to the Da Vinci Code that traces Masonic roots of the groundwork of Washington DC. Clues from Dan Brown's site point to
plot points involving the CIA and stuff that will make most tinfoil hat conspiracy theorists drool. Dan Brown in his interviews claim he's not into propigating widely recycled conspiracy theories, but when his novels deal with the Illuminati and shadowy cabals with world intrigue...one has to wonder how he will handle a book about Freemasonry.

I for one am very interested in this upcoming novel, tho Im just curious if he'll play into the cliche 'sinister conspiring Freemasons' that weve seen in the movies(From Hell, Cremaster 3, Tomb Raider, etc)

wow, the heat will move from the vatican and opus dei to the freemasons.....

I saw one of those "codes revealed" shows which goes through the davinci code plot and explores them point by point. If my sketchy memory serves, they mentioned the freemason at one point were stone masons, but they grew from that, and made a sort of retro-active claim that they were responsible for building solomons temple, or something like that whick then linked them to the templars. Can a freemason comment on that ? I'm just curious

Yeah I saw the same show on the History Channel, called "Beyond the DaVinci Code". When it was going over the THEORIES, it claimed that Freemasons were connecrted to Templars through Solomon's Temple, etc etc. But near the end of the show, when it basically stated the truth about all these theories, it stated that there is no proof that masons are connected to templars because there is no proof that Freemasons built the temple, etc etc.

Being on the History Channel, they had to show that there was no historical evidence for any of the theories in the book. It pretty much treated the whole theory like what it is: fiction.

[edit on 28-6-2005 by sebatwerk]

Dan knows what he is doing. He is trying to make his brand believable, and using what people think they know, to do it for him.

So do the people in Hollywood: But come on now, Cremaster 3?

Just because it has Masons dancing, and is loaded with symbolism it portrays them as more sinister than you would like?

How else would you portray something obsessed with 'group work' and symbolism?

Hi there can i ask for the picture of the ring of solomon

These books are fiction, and sold as such. Do not look into them for scientific/historical proof of ANYTHING.

Dan Brown writes entertaining fiction that some mistake for investigative research, but his prose fails the test of veracity.

The first alarm was here:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Most people don't know or care about freemasons.

Often they don't even know about the lodges
(huge as temples) that are in their town.


If Dan Brown changes that aspect,
and inform people about all sorts
of evident links that are not even
hidden in any ways, THAN
people might start question
the freemasons...

It will be interesting to judge by
freemasons reactions how they are
endoctrinated or not.


How much they insist to defend or not
what in the end is not supposed to be
anything much alarming BUT a fraternity.


If they react as zealously as
a muslim integrists, than,
though that won't stop
freemason from existing, it
will shape public opinion about it.



Personally, I've known freemasons,
and I know they became freemasons
for the fun of making friends,
and they are far far away from the very
engaged people here that take the life
of the congregation as if it was their own.


They do hold the secrets because
they think that is part of the fun
of a fraternity, but apart from the occasional
party they wouldn't talk about it all day,
and would probably refract from it
if a scandal would come out.

A friend of a friend did tell
that in his business they were many
freemasons and felt that this sort
of contact would help him.

This is sad but I think does happen.


As it happens with school fraternities...
you get in it cos you dont want
to be the looser that is not part of it.


Many people are influencable.


In fact I think the people making
their own mind are quite rare.


Cheers,


Cedric Phidel

Mr. Brown's description of Opus Dei in his book was a pretty half assed depiction. Opus Dei is pretty innocent judging from their members.

I can only expect more of it in the Solomon's Key this time with the Masons. Of course making an organization sound like an evil cult makes the copies fly off of the shelf. Money only matters to these authors, not the people they are hurting.

Opus Dei looked pretty innocent to me
in that book.


It is clear that they are repentant at the end,


Cedric

Actually, I'm wondering why people don't simply read The Keys Of Solomon The King if what they're lookng for presumes to be the real thing. Weiser Press still publishes it.

As for whether or not the Freemasons are related to the Templars, I'd say no more than any other Knight organization, which is where the Templars ran when King Philip started his rampage against them.

Originally posted by Toelint
As for whether or not the Freemasons are related to the Templars, I'd say no more than any other Knight organization

Normally, and before I took the Scottish Rite degrees, I would agree, but there are some very convincing pieces of evidence that have made even the most knowledgeable historians think twice about the possible relationship.

[edit on 10-7-2005 by sebatwerk]

I see the freemases as scholars that meant to reunite
together people that had slightly variant beliefs in catholic
europa, very probably influenced by historical doubts
about the existence of Jesus.

I don't think they give a damn about
a sacred blood line, but they were obviously
influenced by the concept that everything
worth knowing in this world was at one
point concealed within the Salomon Temple.



It is obvious that some medieval cathedrals were built
respecting certain esoteric concepts, and that the freemasons
took their names from these "other masons".


Why were medieval architects esoteric, and where
did their knowledge come from, is the question.



But the only real conspiracy that Brown will
probably dig in his new book is to demonstrate
how freemasons bypassed the standard systems
of democracy, and get their names everywhere
without people even noticing.


The Onu, started by the masons at first World War,
is certainly an organization that has nothing but good intentions,
but still, it wasn't voted for or anything.

Same for Cia.

That is why people link freemasons to Cia,
Pentagon, that sort of stuff, pyramid on dollar bill.


People have the right to know why certain
symbols were opted at time when everyone was majoritarely
catholic. What happened with Washington.


It's nothing about big evil, or I would hope so.
It's more about the conflicts of interests between
do-good people and systems of democracy.


Sort of a way for religion to get its path back into politics,
if you ask me.


I am not the specialist but some will tell things
that members from far far remote lodges writting here
will have a harder time to refutate.


I DOUBT it will be about world order or reptilians (duh).

But it could be about if freemasons have a power or not,
and if they do, how are they using it without asking
everyone else's opinions.


Cheers,


Cedric The Ephiminate

Obviously...I'm not english...and my writting sucks....


I hope you can read through my syntax mistakes,


Cedric

Lewis Carrol wrote about fantastic playing card people and grinning talking cats, all pretty silly until you learn what he was really talking about.

Originally posted by Baldr
I also see that the mason's* are avoiding your subliminal questions!

Why is that? says I!

We are not avoiding his questions, we are avoiding his posts altogether. We are ignoring his posts because they are extremely long, convoluted, pointless, don't have a specific topic and they derail the conversation. Intrepid warned him for doing this several times yet he keeps doing it.

Gosh Sebatwerk. That is pathetic.

You are seriously dishonoring your brotherhood
for trying to diffamate someone as such. Tst tst tst.



I have ever received only one ATS warning.

It was about a post where I was asking someone
directly about his sex life.



Sometimes derailing is good for the spirit.


Consider this as your next initiation,


Cedric

Originally posted by Centiment
Gosh Sebatwerk. That is pathetic.

I'm not referring to the administrative warnings that Intrepid gave you, I'm talking about several post exchanges in which Intrepid pointed out the flaws in your argument and asked you to stop making pointless, inconcise posts.

I have tried to answer your questions many times, have I not? But after a while, it became clear that you were just asking questions for the sake of asking, and your posts ended up being WAY too long, WAY too convoluted and having NOTHING to do with the topic of the thread. That's when it became clear, to several of us, that it would be better to ignore you rather than encourage you.

Sometimes derailing is good for the spirit.

Consider this as your next initiation

See what I mean?!? What is this supposed to mean? You constantly post nonsense like this. Why? Stop doing this, and start posting in PARAGRAPHS. Why must you spread out your posts so much, making them long and difficult to quote? THIS is why we ignore you, and will continue to do so.

I'm sorry if this offends you, but if you could post as it relates to the topic, and keep your messages clear and concise, you could join the discussion and have all your questions answered and all your comments considered.

[edit on 14-7-2005 by sebatwerk]

>>>>stop making pointless, inconcise posts.



It's not really my fault if people can't figure
the points I am making.


John XI: 35


Lol...see ?


Noun + verb. Any phrase containing both as a point.






>>>>What is this supposed to mean?



Pretend that you are not a mason for a while and laugh about
it. It's law of Wisdom number...hmmm....4 ? or 5....I forgot....



>>>>THIS is why we ignore you, and will continue to do so.



I am welcoming anyone to put me on ignore.


;-)



Cedric Phi

I cant wait till his new book comes out. I have read most of his other books.