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Topic started on 27-6-2005 @ 11:29 PM by TxSecret
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I thought this was a good read.
www.911review.org...
What do you thinks?
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reply posted on 28-6-2005 @ 02:39 AM by muzzleflash
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theres alot of people around here who fit over 15 of those very very well
Hmmmm...Who Am I Talking About 
and silly thing is; it almost seems like they knowingly follow that list
im not naming names because im probably wrong and well im all paranoid so my thinking *might* be skewed 
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reply posted on 28-6-2005 @ 04:35 AM by Wisdumb
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I demand full explainations and proof of each one and while were here lets go off the subject ok?
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reply posted on 28-6-2005 @ 08:34 AM by DontTreadOnMe
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 Originally posted by TxSecret
What do you thinks? 
More to the point, what do YOU think?
In order to get a good discussion startred, it is a good idea to offer your ideas about the topic. Readers like more than a link to reply to
Mention how this is a deception, etc.
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reply posted on 28-6-2005 @ 09:00 AM by Byrd
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I think that it depends on your view. ANYone with any agenda can use that (including the "there is a race of invisible pink unicorns on Alpha
Centauri who use telepathic control over people on the planets" sort.) Heck, I can think of ways for "Prophet Yahweh" to use that.
It's simply the rules of good argument. It doesn't lead to a clarification of good information versus bunkum.
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reply posted on 28-6-2005 @ 11:59 AM by muzzleflash
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profit yahweh would be a perfect example, and he might not even be aware hes doing it
the end result is deception tho 
might be more accurate to call it "misinformed " lol
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reply posted on 28-6-2005 @ 12:14 PM by Jehosephat
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You are avoiding the issue with disinformation tactics. You evade the issues with your own form of nonsense while others, perhaps more intelligent
than you pretend to be, have no trouble with the material. Why do you refuse to address the issues by use of such disinformation tactics (rule 9 -
play dumb)?
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reply posted on 28-6-2005 @ 12:25 PM by AWingAndASigh
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After reading the list, I'm starting to wonder if ANYTHING we see in the media is actually truth.
We may be horrified if the day finally comes when everything is revealed.
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reply posted on 28-6-2005 @ 12:35 PM by SkepticOverlord
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The Rules in short:
1: Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil
2: Become incredulous and indignant
3: Create rumor mongers
4: Use a straw man
5: Sidetrack opponents with name calling, ridicule
6: Hit and Run
7: Question motives
8: Invoke authority
9: Play Dumb
10: Associate opponent charges with old news
11: Establish and rely upon fall-back positions
12: Enigmas have no solution
13: Alice in Wonderland Logic
14: Demand complete solutions
15: Fit the facts to alternate conclusions
16: Vanish evidence and witnesses
17: Change the subject
18: Emotionalize, Antagonize, and Goad
19: Ignore facts, demand impossible proofs
20: False evidence
21: Call a Grand Jury, Special Prosecutor
22: Manufacture a new truth
23: Create bigger distractions
24: Silence critics
25: Vanish
Each one of these "rules" apply exceptionally well to the modern Internet "conspiracy theorist" as well. It's become a somewhat popular pastime
to come up with incredulous "conspiracy" ideas based on tenuous or manufactured "facts", then create a web page for attention (conspiracy
disinformationists) or profit (conspiracy profiteers).
The website you linked to with this information easily practices all 25, repeatedly.
Before 1994 (and the era of web-based discussion boards and personal websites), conspiracy theory speculation tended to be much more methodical and
based in connecting the dots of verified facts. Today... it's all about getting attention.
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reply posted on 28-6-2005 @ 05:34 PM by theRiverGoddess
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Pretty interesting information.
I was not ALL that clear on EXACTLY what people meant when I see the term DISINFO AGENT tossed around all over the boards. Now I am much more educated
on exactly what they mean when they say that.
Where is you PERSONAL PROOF that what you have posted here is really TRUE? how do I know your not just making all this up?????
See......I 'get it' now
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reply posted on 28-6-2005 @ 08:23 PM by MemoryShock
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Originally posted by Byrd
"there is a race of invisible pink unicorns on Alpha Centauri who use telepathic control over people on the planets" sort.).
I knew it........
Authority by association...........#8 on the list..........Commercial Marketers Love this one.......
Now, to go and figure out how to keep a watch out for 'invisible pink'........
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reply posted on 28-6-2005 @ 08:44 PM by Jehosephat
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the links for rules 17 on up dont work
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reply posted on 28-6-2005 @ 08:51 PM by akilles
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Geez, that list reads like a Mod Initiation into ATS!
Demonstrate the ability to 'look sensible' when saying 'non-sensical things', much as Byrd has demonstrated.
Then there is Skeptic Overlord saying profiteers make up this stuff about Disinformation, and only the site marketing it is using it fully.
Rule Zero
There are "Those who are professional in the art of lies and deceit, such as the intelligence community and the professional criminal (often the same
people or at the least working together)"
"the facts or connections should stand or fall on their own merit"
What would Intel want with a message board? Come on, solve it completely!
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reply posted on 28-6-2005 @ 08:58 PM by Jehosephat
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I heard an interesting comment from a informed media analysis. 30 years ago TV was still a new thing and no one knew how to "work" in the medium to
get full use out of it. Radio was an old hat for most politicians, as welll as public speaking.
But now you have whole orginizations dedicated to "spining" stories to thier full advatage, and attacking or discrediting anyone who brings damaging
info forward. and the internet is now the media that people don't fully understand yet
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reply posted on 29-6-2005 @ 03:58 AM by Wisdumb
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"It's become a somewhat popular pastime to come up with incredulous "conspiracy" ideas based on tenuous or manufactured "facts", then create a
web page for attention (conspiracy disinformationists) or profit (conspiracy profiteers). "
No offense but thats what this website has become mostly......except the profit part but still.. nevermind
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reply posted on 27-3-2006 @ 09:02 PM by NotClever
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I don't know why this thread died. The last post in particular seems to be applicable to many cases.
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reply posted on 18-4-2006 @ 11:26 PM by Christian IX
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Blah...
In Memorandum, ZP...
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