Originally posted by RedWhiteandBlood
Oh yeah the Downing Street Memo. The US wanted to get rid of Saddam. Big surprise.
And it still does not address my more valid points:
1. No one could give us a 100% that Saddam did not have WMDs and was a threat.
2. No other place offered the unique oppurtunity that Iraq did geographical, receptness to regime change, rich middle class, influence on Arab world,
education, wealth, and potential to compete on global economy.
3. Letting threats slide just a year and a half after 9/11.
What are your responses to these points?
And I have family in Hendorsonville. You in Memphis?
Who cares where you family lives? Why does that matter to anything at all?
Do you have to have family in Iraq to sympathise with a child who is orphaned by a misguided missle? Do you see humanity as a whole or colours
seperated by borders and oceans?
1. That you started a war for your own interests and based them on information which you knew was not true - the Downing St memo is why your first
point is NOT valid. They didn't get 100% confirmation there were no WMDs so that means they can lie to present a threat?
If you put all the information into a timeline then it becomes obvious that they knew there wasn't a threat and instead of finding one, they lied
about one. They didn't prove 100% that there was a threat because the information they provided was either outdated or a flat out lie.
2. When number 1 became public knowledge they said the war for for humanitarian reasons which REAL humanitarian groups have labelled as the worst
humanitarian mission of all time because it's doing more destruction than humanitarian assistance making that not valid either!
Now it's becoming obvious that the war was for their own interests at the costs of the lives of others and when that happens, other countries like
China who are at risk of being cut off and who are owed a lot of money will do the same thing America did - Everything they can do to look after their
own interests at the expense of others.
This is how WW3 will begin and your supporting this because you believe what exactly? That because America was 'attacked' on 9/11, it should avenge
all threats real or not, possible or not just to be sure but instead of doing that via normal ways you would track and bring down criminals they
should do it via a show of dominanating force with doctrines that state to the rest of the world that you get in line or get in front of our aim??
3. There were no threats after 9/11 that haven't been around for years. They made you believe there was a threat that needed to be taken care of.
Iraq was a lie, Afghanistan is about securing more American interests than actually desolving a threat if you bother to read about Taliban/Warlords
treatment of Afghans (read a book called 'Absurdistan').
The real threats to America are the ones in America and the ones in the Saudi Palace. Even if 9/11 is the base for chasing these threats, it's still
America and Saudi Arabia that are the centre of these threats yet they are left out of every equation because exposing the real threats would expose
the lies you've bought.
Don't you understand that what America is doing it going to come back on America? Who's telling China they can't 'pre-empt' or they can't do
what has to be done to keep their energy supplies alive because they WILL be at that point within 10 years. Everyone acknowledges that China is moving
faster forward than any other nation so how can you throw out logic like 'pre-emption on suspicions' without expecting to recieve it at some
I don't know how i can explain in a way that you'll understand but i'm sure if you live for the next 10 years you'll see it and all i can say is
that i hope you don't fall for the dribble they spout on the news between the sport and weather headlines because if you do, then you won't realise
what's going on until you hear the whistle of the bomb.
Seriously, read some books written by investigative journalists who have been in all said countries by people who have associated on the ground and
been in the action, that's how you'll learn what repercussions are already starting to ripple out of this fake war.