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posted on Jun, 28 2005 @ 12:40 AM
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Originally posted by GlobalDisorder
Starters, im neither... I live in Australia.

Bush knew the attack was coming, and isntead of telling his forces to be ready and defend, he told them to stand down and let it happen.

pssht, nice thinking!


LOL! What psycho web page are you getting this stuff from!?! LOL! Please show me the facts on this. LOL! So, let me get this straight the President of the United States KNEW this would happen and decided to let 3,000 + people die???? LOL!




posted on Jun, 28 2005 @ 12:42 AM
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Originally posted by Seekerof

as posted by GlobalDisorder
IF clinton recieved warnings that the Twin towers were going to be bombed, or the USS cole... then im pretty sure he would of done SOMETHING to avoid it, or stop it from happening ALL TOGETHER..


Oh really?
You can make the above assertion, with such "sureness," all the while also ignoring, nor mentioning, that Clinton was bombing Iraq, doing operations in Iraq, and believed and had documented that Iraq had those "evil Bush regime" declared WMDs, huh?!




seekerof

[edit on 28-6-2005 by Seekerof]



posted on Jun, 28 2005 @ 12:43 AM
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Originally posted by Passer By
They are the ones that put the president in there, they are the ones that elected him to a second term(MYABE) aren't they?


Please remeber he was placed in office in 2000 by the US Supreme Court, not by the people directly or the electoral college. Then there is the whole debate about election problems in 2004.



posted on Jun, 28 2005 @ 12:43 AM
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Yes, President George W. Bush will be looked on as one of the greatest President in history. He has the will to take on hard tasks that other men and nations are too scared to do. He is a great man, a man you hates polls and does what he thinks is right.

I am not brainwashed just because I have a different opinion than you, I'd say that is a pretty closed minded way of thinking...



posted on Jun, 28 2005 @ 12:50 AM
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OK seekerof,

Try explaining why every part of this war on terror has got SOO Many argumentative points?

If this war was for real.. why do so many americans apose it?

Why did the gvt have SO Much proof on WMD's... yet it turned out to be bogus?

Why did the gvt say they purchased uranium from nigeria, yet that turnedo ut to be a lie.

Why are so many memo's coming from the UK saying this was all fixed?

Why are so many servicemen in IRAQ saying they cant understand why tehy are there, or went it?

Why did the US have patriot missles and defenses around Washington becuase they were SURE saddam would launch an attack prior to the invasion?

the list goes on and on and on and on...
IF THIS war was legitimate, if this government was legitmate none of this conspiracy would be there...

and yes, I Do believe its a funny thing to say that this president will be the greatest in american history
and yes I LARF at any one who says that..
because YES.. you obviously are gullable enough to believe the cr@p your gvt is feeding you.

Logical wakled out the door when you nodded your head and said yes my president, IRAQ is a clear and present danger.



posted on Jun, 28 2005 @ 12:53 AM
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Originally posted by Faust

Originally posted by Seekerof

as posted by GlobalDisorder
IF clinton recieved warnings that the Twin towers were going to be bombed, or the USS cole... then im pretty sure he would of done SOMETHING to avoid it, or stop it from happening ALL TOGETHER..


Oh really?
You can make the above assertion, with such "sureness," all the while also ignoring, nor mentioning, that Clinton was bombing Iraq, doing operations in Iraq, and believed and had documented that Iraq had those "evil Bush regime" declared WMDs, huh?!




seekerof

LOL! Another one! LOL! Oooooooo...Clinton sent 2 cruise missles into Afghanistan to blow up some stuff. Oh my, what a BOLD move. Clinton was also continuing "no-fly zones" in Iraq after the first Gulf War. What a HUGE commitment to protecting the world! Meanwhile Al Quida blows up 2 Embassies in Africa, attacks the U.S. Cole, attempts to blow up the World Trade Center in 1993 and kills numerous American soldiers in Solmolia. "Don't mess that Liberal President or else he'll just,...just,....well, there's no tellin' what he will do, so you better watch it!"

Clinton had the same information that Bush acted on. The information was indeed that Saddam had WMD's. Also, the Senate (half Republicans and Democrats) voted YES to invade Iraq. So, what is your point??????
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posted on Jun, 28 2005 @ 12:54 AM
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Faust...
What Memo's saying attack immeninet with AIRCRAFT isnt significant?

HAving these alqaeda people training at FLIGHT schools isnt a big enough HINT?

Lemme guess you wouldnt of seen it coming either right?

Its definately a closed mind when looknig at Bush.

HE hasnt given me any reason to trust or back him in what he's doing.



posted on Jun, 28 2005 @ 12:58 AM
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Ok to all you bush/War supporters...

What good will come out of this war in Iraq?
What is the ultimate Aim?



posted on Jun, 28 2005 @ 01:04 AM
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Originally posted by McGrude

Originally posted by Passer By
They are the ones that put the president in there, they are the ones that elected him to a second term(MYABE) aren't they?


Please remeber he was placed in office in 2000 by the US Supreme Court, not by the people directly or the electoral college. Then there is the whole debate about election problems in 2004.





LOL! I'm having a blast ripping you Liberals apart! LOL! He was "placed" in office??? The electoral votes decide who the President will be. Bush got the majority of votes, even if they include the questionable ballots. There is no way around it. If liberals don't like the fact that Electoral votes decide over the Majority of votes as to whom will be President then you have had the power for over 5 years to do something about it. Send in petitions to your Senators and local representatives to demand that "YOU THE PEOPLE" want things to change. You CAN do this. Tell your Congressmen that you want the Popular vote to decide who the President will be. I'll sign it too.

However, in over 5 years has there been a petition to do this? NO, nothing at all. Liberals would rather complain and b!tch about how things are than act.



posted on Jun, 28 2005 @ 01:09 AM
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Originally posted by GlobalDisorder
What good will come out of this war in Iraq?
What is the ultimate Aim?


The ultimate aim is a prosperous, democratic Middle East that is no longer the breeding ground of terrorists that threaten world security.

Not too difficult to figure that one out!



posted on Jun, 28 2005 @ 01:09 AM
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Faust.. how can you even say the MAJORITY picked the president?

WAKE UP MAN!

OPEN YOUR EYES!

He has 2 CLOSE Relatives in positions which favour electorial tampering.

FOX And FLORIDA.

He Had his DAD in a major power pulling position also.

And I dont think majority of americans in their RIGHT MIND would of voted for this man..



posted on Jun, 28 2005 @ 01:10 AM
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Originally posted by GlobalDisorder
Ok to all you bush/War supporters...

What good will come out of this war in Iraq?
What is the ultimate Aim?


The ultimate goal of the “war in Iraq” is two fold.

First we needed to remove Saddam who is an enemy of the United States of America, his own people and the world. We needed to make sure that he did not have any WMD’s anymore. Second, and most important is too bring democracy to Iraq and create a stable and peaceful country. This will show the masses of the middle-east that America is willing to help them and created a better life for them. If they use peaceful democracy and abandon violent Islamic leaders then they will have better lives. When people in the middle-east have better lives then they will leave behind violence and terror.

Please, try to understand I support the war. But I also hate war. It is my hope that by helping the middle-east get rid of terrorists and evil rulers (who keep all the money from their people and blame the U.S. for all their problems) that the world will become a better place for ALL people.



posted on Jun, 28 2005 @ 01:20 AM
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Originally posted by GlobalDisorder
Faust...
What Memo's saying attack immeninet with AIRCRAFT isnt significant?

HAving these alqaeda people training at FLIGHT schools isnt a big enough HINT?

Lemme guess you wouldnt of seen it coming either right?

Its definately a closed mind when looknig at Bush.

HE hasnt given me any reason to trust or back him in what he's doing.



Evil Bush sitting in his black cloak conspiring on how to let the world DESTROY itself: "Hmm, these arabs are learning how to fly planes on American soil?"

Enters the Cheney, seathing with venomous evil: "Those nice arabs boys that you've forced to hate ALL Americans are about to KILL thousands of innocent people my Lord, what are your orders?"

Evil Bush: "Sit and do nothing. The screams of thousands of people will fill my blackened heart with delight. HA! HA! HA! HA!"

Rewind 2 years earlier......

Angel Gore: "These poor misunderstood arab gentlemen just killed a bunch of more Americans by blowing up that ship thingy called the Cole. I believe they're the same ones that acidentally murdered in cold blood those Americans in ours Embassies, Solmolia and also attempted tried to bring down that evil symbol of Capitalism in New York called the world Trade Center. What should our P.R. statement be Mr. President?"

Angel Clinton: "Well, whatever they decide to do to us, we deserve it. After all this country is just so damn evil. Now, get the bejesus outta here. My intern is gonna show me a magic trick called hide the hotdog."



posted on Jun, 28 2005 @ 01:20 AM
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SO Iran Syria, Turkey, Pakistan all that should beware? the USA is coming to rid you of terrorism?
What terrorism was in IRAQ prior to the invasion?
wasnt it Afghanistan, whoops i mean saudi?
Isnt majority of these ' insurgents ' saudi?
And isnt IRAQ a breeding ground now?
I know hindsight is a lovely thing but democratic change in the middeleast?

Prior to the invasion,
Iraq was stable. IT was producing its quote in Oil, it wasnt attacking anyone, threatening anyone and wasnt stockpiling WMD's.
G Bush stated that IRAQ Was threatning the world with these weapons and was stock piling them. and this was his justification for going to war.. NOT to show other countries they the USA will help them, more to SCARE the other countries.

people wont leave behind violence and terror jsut because their new american puppet gvt says so...

peoeple will continue to hunt slaughter and destory america because america is hunting, destorying and SLAUGHTERING their Friends, brothers, sisters, mothers and fathers, and saying its the RIGHT THING TO DO.

IF democracy and diplomatic CHANGE was the main agender of the USA...
why go in guns blazing and destroy the country?
Wouldnt it of been wise first to figure out the LEADERSHIP and guidelines for this country first?

Democracy in the middle east cant happen, because it has NEvER happened.
They arent capable of reasoning on figures, facts and sums, they see force and allah as the greatest reasoning tool.

when it is in your religion to kill and mame anyone who tries to change your way of life, it doesnt matter what the occupiers are trying to give you, it matters what your god tells you.

This isnt a war for democracy its a war on religion.



posted on Jun, 28 2005 @ 01:23 AM
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thats a real mature way to look at it faust..

Im sure it went exactly like that

why is it so hard to thnk your president saw what was coming, and thought it was in the governemnts best interests to sacrifice lives and structure for an entry into the middeleast?



posted on Jun, 28 2005 @ 01:28 AM
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Once this is over we will have a power base in Iraq, it will help America deal with the Saudis. And it will help the people of the middle-east!



posted on Jun, 28 2005 @ 01:32 AM
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Why would america deal with the saudi's?

With the amount of $$$ and OIL we rely on from saudi theres no reason to attack them.

They alreay obey the USA's orders...

Sure there are some disafeccted minorities they chant death to america and so forth but if the governments doing as the USA wants, why would they care about the people?

Isnt it illegial to invade, occupy and Setup base in a sovereign country?

and why would you need a base in the middeleast unless u wernt already deciding on military action against other nations?.. sorry terrorist threats..

But hey there cant be another invasion until we have just case for it..
Hey look, i can already see the ' FOX NEWS ALERT ' terror attack in Manhattan scrolling across my TV.



posted on Jun, 28 2005 @ 02:11 AM
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Yes, President George W. Bush will be looked on as one of the greatest President in history.


ONLY in your own country ! Not in the rest of the world. To the rest of the world Bush will be the most hated president in history. Your last one got impeached over a blowjob....We can't beleive this one is still in office, and even got "re-elected".

The rest of the world is still waiting for WDM's to be found in Iraq(thus making the war a bit less illegal ), is still waiting for the capture of OBL(of which the cia knows where he is) , is still waiting for explanations concearning all the questions there are about the events of 9/11, is still waiting for Bush to explain his ties to the Sauodi Royals, ....



posted on Jun, 28 2005 @ 02:20 AM
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XyZer,

Sounds, like you've been watching to many mike moore movies.


George W. Bush will be looked apon as a great figure in world history!!



posted on Jun, 28 2005 @ 02:22 AM
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Why?

What has he done that the future will look back and go,
thank god this man was in office,
the world was a better place with him in it.


Honestly?
I can only see negatives..
so please throw me some positives




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