Originally posted by oxgoad
My question remains unanswered.
He's trying to say that the so-called 'league of shadows' is not real, its from a comic book, just like Gotham city isn't a real city but is from
a comic book. And just like gotham seems like a real city (because its based on chicago and NYC), the league of shadows sounds 'real' because it
might've been based on things like the NWO and Illuminati (which, ironically enough, are also fictional in many repsects).
grad_student
are there secret societies in the Eastern world?"
The ismaleeh (or some such) branch of islam I have seen refered to as the 'Illuminati of the East'. This was said because the mainstream allways
fears that they are secretly plotting to overthrow the proper government. The Sufis and the like are often associated with these sorts of things.
There was also a group in Japan called the Black Dragons, who were apparently in some way associated with the Aryan myth in europe. And there was also
the society of the "Rigtheous and Harmonious Fist" that lead a rebellion in china. There is also, famously, the Assasin's in the Holy Land, an
esoteric secretive islamic group. For that matter, the alawite sect in islam is somewhat esoteric and secretive, apparently. This is the sect that
the ruler of Syria belongs to.
There are also the Unitarians in the levant, (not assoiciated with christian unitarians), sometimes called the Druze. They are a secret society with
apparently an esoteric faith (that is 'flavoured' like islam but is not islamic). The preists are initiated into the group from the laiety and
receive the special/secret knowledge that is their faith. There's a nice little thread about it
here.
But of course several of these groups mentioned, like the Unitarians, are more religions than 'secret societies' like the masons and whathaveyou.
Generally, there was a fad to look upon 'eastern esoteric beleifs' as somehow superior to western and other non-eastern ones for a long while, that
coincided with the uptick in popularity of buddhism and groups like the khrisnas years ago, and for periods before that too. So many esoteric groups
would have a myth about the founder traveling to the east and gaining great wisdom from eastern masters, etc etc, like the theosophists and
rosicurians. Often there is a 'mother' secret society that they learn these things from. The people over at DC comics picked up on this and made
it so that Batman was trained similarly by Eastern Masters (in the himalyas nonetheless, with the buddhists and lamas, etc). And by a man with an
'arabic' sounding name 'Raz al-ghoul'.