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Later the question no longer seemed so fantastic and began to be examined at the level not
only of the Defense Ministry, but of other government departments as well. This interest
specifically expressed itself in certain experts being sent to investigate, especially to those
places where UFOs, let's call them that, appeared quite frequently. I know a whole
number of military bases in that category. As a rule they are objects of strategic
significance, rocket complexes, scientific test establishments, in other words the places
where there is a high concentration of advanced science and, to some degree, danger.
Because every nuclear rocket, every new Air force installation represents a breakthrough
both in science and in military terms; it is first and foremost a peak, the summit of human
achievement. And that is where UFOs appeared fairly often. Moreover, individual officers
and commanders on the spot who knew about the phenomenon and had no official
instructions on the matter, acted on their own initiative to investigate UFOs, recording
data, and so on. I know that in some places they even learned to create a situation which
would deliberately provoke the appearance of a UFO. A UFO would appear where there
was increased military activity connected, say, with the transportation of "special" loads. It
was enough artificially stimulate or schedule such a move for a UFO to appear. In other
words, some kind of conditional relationship emerged. And they detected it. We're an
intelligent nation, nothing escapes us. I know that at certain testing ranges - I won't name
them, although it's no longer a secret - they even learnt to make contact of a kind. What
did that consists of? First the UFO appeared; in most instances it was a sphere, but there
were other kinds. Contact was achieved with the help of physical indications of behavior -
pointing your arms in various directions, say, and the sphere became flattened in the same
direction. If you raised your arms three times, the UFO flattened out in a vertical
direction three times as well. In the early 1980s, on the instructions of the then Soviet
leadership, experiments using technical devices (theodolites, radar stations, and others)
were carried out as a result of which the unidentified objects were firmly recorded as