posted on Jun, 28 2005 @ 01:06 PM
Originally posted by GrOuNd_ZeRo
NATO and Russia are "the world?" Good grief. The United States could crush Russia and NATO if it wanted, that is why everyone either fears or hates
the United States.
No one fears the United States here in Europe, they just completely disagree with them, and you stated that the US would "crush" NATO AND
Russia? keep dreaming, they'd be outnumbered and outgunned by a large factor, NATO and Russia is a large majority of the western world mind
And Bush a "warmonger?" So he's a warmonger for going after the terrorists who attacked the country before they attack it again, uh-huh. People
also seem to forget that with regards to Iraq, Saddam broke the cease-fire. WMD and so forth were part of it as well, but he also broke the
cease-fire. You can't break a cease-fire and not expect retaliation (well, with Clinton you could).
The conspiracy community thinks otherwise about Bush, the majority believe that he allowed 9/11 to happen or more extreme theories claim he staged
9/11, personally I think he could easilly do the latter.
The United States wages war in the Middle East right now because the terrorists are there and they attacked the U.S. So now we are attacking them; we
are in their backyard, and we will continue attacking them until they stop being a theat to us.
The war was started for profits for the Defense Contractors and the Oil industry, again, the majority of the people believe this, and seems more
plausible. why would terrorist attack the US if they eventually would be mericlessly crushed? it's suicide, Bin Laden is smarter than that.
The previous president, Clinton, knew about Osama bin Laden during the first World Trade Center bombings and still decided not to go after him. So of
course then about a decade later 9/11 happens.
Who would have supported a war on a person that the CIA funded in the FIRST PLACE! Remember Bush Sr. was the head of the CIA, and had an intimate
relationship with the Bin Ladens.
Bush is a dufus in certain ways (I hate his policy on Mexico). But be glad he is president right now with regards to the terrorists. If Gore or Kerry
were in control, we'd probably be cowering and looking weak and seeking ways to "appease" the terrorists (not going to work when they're devoted
to the literal destruction of the United States).
Bush is a puppet, controlled by his father and/or the secret government.
War is sometimes necessary. It is necessary to the security of the state.
They create boogiemen when they want to start a war, Pearl Harbour was allowed to happen because they wanted a piece of the World War 2 pie.
BTW, Russian-Kid, it'll be a long time before the United States is a "wasteland."
Maybe not caused by war but rather by polution.
Over-nationalistic views will only be the downfall of the US, the sheer arrogance is compelling but the zenith of foolishness.
Aside from the British and U.S. military, there is no other military in the world capable of fighting wars. NATO would not stand a chance.
As for this war being over oil and the defense contractors, that is rubbish pretty much. They said the same thing in Gulf War I as well. As far as
what conspiracy theorists think, that is just it, they "think" that because they are conspiracy theorists. You need to look at the overall facts and
picture of the situation.
There are people who think the U.S. created the tidal wave that hit out in the Pacific as well. Just a conspiracy theory.
There was no "wanting a piece of the WWII pie," man. The United States could not remain neutral for much longer. Some way or another, it was going
to get drawn into the war. It is theorized that Roosevelt may have allowed Pearl Harbor to happen to bring the U.S. into the war then at that moment,
but no one knows for sure.
Bush is definitely not a puppet at all (as much as he can avoid being one due to lobbying), and he is far from a warmonger. He is doing what is
necessary for the security of the country. Yes, of course the CIA worked with the Bin Ladens; not all of them are evil and devoted to the destruction
of the United States. That is Osama bin Laden.
People like to say he is a puppet who is controlled by a secret society, yada yada, there is no real proof of that at all because it simply isn't
true. It IS true that Bush's decisions (and those of every politician and President) are influenced somewhat by the rich people in this country. They
are probably your secret society.
But contrary to popular belief, this war isn't about oil and it for d**n sure isn't over anyone's wanting to "conquer" the world or anything, the
way many people suggest.
[edit on 28-6-2005 by Broadsword20068]