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God Vs Secret Societies

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posted on Jul, 10 2005 @ 12:55 AM
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Originally posted by Centiment



To unrule the kinfdom of God.

Of course.


Thought that was obvious.


Cedric


"God is your dog, and Satan is a friend of mine."


Cool, everyone reading this will see you as they should, you're unstable, your words will not carry any weight.

Are you going to go away again for a year or so before you come back and annoy the board again?

Peace out, Rock On, whatever.




posted on Jul, 10 2005 @ 01:17 AM
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I know you are in love with me and read every of my posts but, please,
calm your hormones.


I think the board should engage impartial moderators.
I can see you picking on me. At least my tarot desks says so.



In a boards about the discussion of religious beliefs
or treating conspiracies, every post will sound annoying
to one or another.


In a serious philosophical symposium,
I would probably be accused of adressing myself
badly, but not of annoying a discussion.

The concept of simulacra that I am imposing
to the bible is an important controversy
in theosophy.


Cedric Theosophi



posted on Jul, 10 2005 @ 01:23 AM
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Originally posted by Centiment



I know you are in love with me and read every of my posts but, please,
calm your hormones.


Save your homo-erotic fantasies, none of us wish to know what goes on in your mind.



I think the board should engage impartial moderators.
I can see you picking on me. At least my tarot desks says so.


So you wish the users of this forum to take on the moderators with out biases in an argument?




In a boards about the discussion of religious beliefs
or treating conspiracies, every post will sound annoying
to one or another.


Only you are sending this irritating "vibe".




In a serious philosophical symposium,
I would probably be accused of adressing myself
badly, but not of annoying a discussion.


I beg to differ.



[edit on 10-7-2005 by Majestic12]


Cug

posted on Jul, 10 2005 @ 01:38 AM
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Originally posted by Centiment

I think the board should engage impartial moderators.


No need, all the moderators who have posted in threads that I have read have done a good job.



I can see you picking on me. At least my tarot desks says so.


There's your problem! you should try tarot cards!



posted on Jul, 10 2005 @ 01:52 AM
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Originally posted by sebatwerk
1. By skeptics and "thinking" people because there is NO EVIDENCE whatsoever to suggest that the Illuminati, for example, exists in any way, shape or form.


I saw the thread title and had to check it out. I read the first post and had to respond. I haven't erad the entire thread because I do have time constraints but here is my comment on the quote.....

To begin with, I am a huge skeptic and consider myself a 'thinking' person. As I believe many of my opsts have illustrated, I utilize logic first and foremost.

And for seb to go ahead and bluntly state that there is no evidence time and time again is to be expected.......just as it is expected for him to repeatedly Cap his repitious assertions........but I digress........

The Illuminati don't have to be the 'Illuminati', in a technical sense. The illuminati can be a reference to a certain outlook or attitude of an an individual.......to be illuminated.....to not blindly accept the normal rigor morals of the popular expressions. To be 'Illuminati' could merely be a vague reference to an ideal......in that sense, there is plenty of evidence to support their existence just by the fact that there are literally hundreds of different philosophies and perspectives.....and many people of heightened understanding.

Also, to continue my obscure reasonings, one could take the stance, seb, that the manifestation of our society and the existence of a higher economic class(Oil, Du Pont, Walton, etc.) necessitates/i] the existence of the Illuminati whether they are truly called that or not. The burden of proof could actually be on the naysayers of secret societies if one were to view our reality in another light.........just a thought.....



posted on Jul, 10 2005 @ 02:09 AM
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>>>none of us wish to know what goes on in your mind.


ATS conspiracy ?




>>>>>>Only you are sending this irritating "vibe".


Cos I talked about an unholy bible ?




>>>I beg to differ.


The medium is the message ?




>>>>>There's your problem! you should try tarot cards!


Here is what the tarots told me about my relation to this board:


Hermit - Moon - Chariot - The World - Wheel


(that tarot was given to me by an ex rosicrucian at his death,
apparently that makes it magic(k), whatever you believe)


Hermit + Moon means that the protagonist (aka me)
evolves in quite an evil entourage.

Bad intentions are sent toward him or even discussed in his back.


This followed by Chariot talks about someone perceived as disturbing
for his unusual ideas. Someone emerging and rapidly noticed.

Ending by The World, means that eventually there is chance
that I could receive a little respect, but Chariot crossing the path of Hermit VS Moon is definitely not easy. At any rates, this "desk" is definitey flattering me, which I thank the lord for because I really was starting to
feel discouraged.


Fortunately for all of you, the wheel announces
that I will become busy elsewhere
soon enough to have to sacrifice this dialogue.
Or rather, I think it suggest me to pass unto other things,
what is exactly what some of you are telling me.


Ah well....


I was going to play you Cug but was afraid
of being accused of harassment.


(already this post is unrelated to topic as it is,
sorry, I give permission to have it deleted...haha...)


Cedric


Cug

posted on Jul, 10 2005 @ 02:40 AM
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I’m don’t have a clue where you got your tarot meanings from? I’m a little rusty but here goes.



Here is what the tarots told me about my relation to this board:
Hermit - Moon - Chariot - The World - Wheel


Hermit + Moon

You’re unhappy or dissatisfied with the wisdom you have shown on this board

Chariot

But your seeking victory over the board

The World + Wheel

The World represents the subject of the reading, so your relation with the board is your having fun with it. And are happy your getting responses (i.e. trolling).



posted on Jul, 10 2005 @ 02:50 AM
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Originally posted by MemoryShock
And for seb to go ahead and bluntly state that there is no evidence time and time again is to be expected.......just as it is expected for him to repeatedly Cap his repitious assertions........but I digress........


I have repeated myself no more than the number of times ridiculous assertions, slander and half-truths have been spewed out and repeated on this forum.



To be 'Illuminati' could merely be a vague reference to an ideal......in that sense, there is plenty of evidence to support their existence just by the fact that there are literally hundreds of different philosophies and perspectives.....and many people of heightened understanding.

Also, to continue my obscure reasonings, one could take the stance, seb, that the manifestation of our society and the existence of a higher economic class(Oil, Du Pont, Walton, etc.) necessitates the existence of the Illuminati


And if this is what we were talking about, then I would agree. What you just mentioned was, indeed, the original meaning of "Illuminati" or "Alumbrado". But, alas, it is not. On a conspiracy forum such as ATS, posts of the Illuminati refer to the existence of a secret group of shadowy men/women/reptilians who control all aspects of world affairs from the shadows. Ridiculous theories such as these serve only to distract people from the real concpiracies and evils of the world.

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posted on Jul, 10 2005 @ 03:40 AM
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It would be true, Cug, if card number 2
represented my participation to the board,

but with my question it perfectly represented
the board.


It is something exterior to me.

It is possible though that I am
disappointed by it.


I question the materialization
of holyness as a concept
that was probably brought
much later than the religious
facts that were transmitted orally
through centuries.

Mosees's tablets were certainly
holy if they ever existed, but
what we get in the bible is a
later transcription of an information
that was orally transmitted in a certain time.


For the sake of god's believers,
I think it would be time to
stop consider the bible
holy but rather this position
that each individual experience
when they receive a message
that they sense, is holy.


I believe that moral speaks within us,
and that we hold the key to recognize
a message of truth from a false.


I think people get endoctrinated
because they refuse to consolidate
within themselves how they respond
to what they are told.


If god exist, than philosophy doesn't
because it is only a matter of discovering
either godly or evil concepts that are already
in "god's air".


The funny thing is....we get to them...
without religion.


Love one another is a supreme
logic in philosophy, though
retracted as utopic because...
well....just need to see how
people react here to understand
why.


Call it love or god,
it always seems to rely
on man's dream, hope, or vision
of an utopia that he is
not able to provide himself.



Cheers,


Cedric Phi



posted on Jul, 10 2005 @ 12:17 PM
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Originally posted by Centiment
(already this post is unrelated to topic as it is,
sorry, I give permission to have it deleted...haha...)


Cedric


Well Ced, the only thing I can infer from this, seeing as it is not your thread is that you are here to disrupt discussion. Duly noted. The rest of the staff will be notified.

Side note: This is the first time I posted in this thread as a member of the staff.



posted on Jul, 10 2005 @ 04:41 PM
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Please post more of you references to comedic films
and old records, that was totally on-topic.


Ced




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