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1. I say it again Taleban is not Mujahedeen. Northern Aliance was the remains of Mujahedeens. US didn't arm, nor finance Taleban, because Taleban was created AFTER Afghan war, and it consisted mostly of students of Pakistan madrassas not anti russian afghan guerillas (with som exceptions like bin Laden). I know it is very nice idea that US created Taleban, but it's simply not true.
2. Tu-160 is superior to B1B in payload and speed, but not in electornics and stealth (although the new "stealth" version has RCS similar to B1B). It is also maintance intensive plane, russians have a lot of problem with keeping it mission ready and also with production - they have app.
20 of them compare this to 67 B1B bombers and 21 B2 and you'll see that in this aspects the russians are inferior, no matter what you said.
3. I don't know why are you saying Georgia is unstable it is at least so stable as Russia. And concerning Russia-Georgia relationship, while there were some allegations about Georgian support of Chechen guerillas perhaps you don't know that russian forces still regulary occupy some parts of Georgia.
Originally posted by longbow
I wonder what would happen if Georgia too decided to officialy "send peacekeepers" to pro Georgian population of Chechenya. Would it be OK too?
[edit on 1-10-2006 by longbow]
Originally posted by longbow
It doesn't matter what russians say they do, the fact is - their army is on Georgian territory without Georgian approval - that's occupation, it doesn't matter if they want to fight or not. No wonder Georgians are not satisfied with this situation, no country - just look at Russia - would be happy with it.
[edit on 1-10-2006 by longbow]
Originally posted by iskander
What you call "some allegations about Georgian support of Chechen guerillas" has been a fact for over a decade, and the focus point there is Pankisi Gorge. Chechen separatists are and always have been financed by foreign powers, and used Pankisi Gorge as a safe haven, base of operations and rehabilitation center for the wounded. Crimea and other locations were also openly used for taking care of wounded Chechen's under identical circumstances.
Originally posted by iskander
Officially, Georgian pro-western policy began immediately after the string of called "color revolutions", all of which are carbon copies of all other ex-Soviet block cou de tats'. Bay of Pigs is a good place to start in order to understand what it all means and how it works.
In this particular development the list is long, Yugoslavia, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Tatarstan, Kazakhstan, Ukraine, Belorussian, Georgia, Armenia, Chechnya etc. Iraq and Afghanistan are only what the media shows us.
Originally posted by iskander
Armenians for example can't stand Georgians for selling out to Bush for example, and that's they have been actively rearming. As it stands, the puppet governments of Ukraine and Georgia are purposefully destabilizing the region with a goal to instigate armed conflict, which will lead to permanent NATO presence in the region. Just as it happened in Yugoslavia.
Originally posted by RetinoidReceptor
Originally posted by ARNOMANNN
Anybody ever bothered to think that maybe Russia is prepping their airforce for the upcoming War with Iran??? Russia has invested alot of time,money and personnel into the Iranian nuclear program and is also a major buyer of iranian oil.Maybe the terrorist's they speak about is the U.S.A. itself???
No, and no offense, but that is ridiculous.
Originally posted by ARNOMANNN
I don't it's that ridiculous,in fact follow the money trail of the terrorist's and some of it leads back to the sviet union
leads back to the sviet union
Originally posted by ARNOMANNN
Does anybody recall a story on how Al-Qaeda's no. 2 man al zwhari?? was detained by the kgb in chechnya in the mid 90's for about 90 days and then released?? Shortly after that,Osama declares jihad against America.Co-incidence?? I think so!!
Originally posted by iskander
No. What was the story? I do know that there was not KGB in the mid 90s, not in Chechnya or anywhere else.
I do recall that Osama Bin Laden was guarded by US troops while he was getting med treatment, and that's after he "declares jihad against America".
Six months later, Zawahri was expelled from Sudan and with bin Laden and 400 others went to Afghanistan. Over the next few years, Zawahri's role included traveling to raise money and to cement ties with other militant groups. In December 1996, he went to Chechnya to see about setting up a base but was arrested in Dagestan and sentenced in April 1997 to six months for illegal entry, after which he was released. Bin Laden paid to bail him out.
Originally posted by iskander
I did not know that al-Zawahri was in Chechnya. For a decade our media called Chechen's "freedom fighters" and separatists, and only after 9/11 they were relabeled as terrorists. Never have I heard from US media that Arabs were active in Chechnya, and that there are in fact connections to Al Qaeda, Taliban and so forth. That was always the angle of the Russian media.
Originally posted by RetinoidReceptor
Maloy, why is Russia seemingly so pro-Middle Eastern Countries (like Syria and Iran). And why are they arming Islamic fundamentalists (like the leaders of Iran), if they are having problems with Muslim extremists? I never understood this.