AMERICA IS A REPUBLIC, not a democracy

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posted on Aug, 13 2003 @ 01:58 PM
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I have been reading and hearing everyone talking about America the democracy, and thought I would tell you all the truth. America is a Republic.

P.S. Do not worry I have permission to reproduce this story, so there is no copyright vioalation.


AMERICA IS A REPUBLIC
NOT A 'DEMOCRACY'!


By: Gordon Bishop

I’m tired of Democrats telling me they believe in "democracy" and that America is a "democracy."

Liberals constantly use the word "democracy" because they want voters and taxpayers to believe that, as Democrats, they are the chosen ones.

Democrats "equal" democracy, so they claim.




There is absolutely no basis for the Democrats calling America a "democracy," except for the association between the words Democrat and democracy.

It sounds good.

Historically, democracy leads to anarchy, which is "mob rule," according to the Greek philosopher Plato (read Plato’s "The Republic").

But America was not founded as a democracy. It was created as a constitutional Republic the "rule of law."

The word "democracy" was never used by the founders in writing the Declaration of Independence, the United States Constitution, or the Bill of Rights.

The cornerstone of our nation’s founding as "free and Independent States" is specifically written in the Declaration of Independence for the "Representatives of the United States of America."

There’s nothing in the Declaration of Independence about "democracy."

The Constitution is even more emphatic about the kind of government the United States of America must be to remain free and independent.

Here it is: "The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government." - Article IV. Section 4 of the U.S. Constitution.

When we salute our American flag, we do not say "democracy," we say:

"I pledge the allegiance to the flag, of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, under God, with liberty and justice for all."

Democrats (liberals) like to blur the distinction between a Republic and a democracy. They want voters to think "Democrat-democracy" - not "Republic-Republican."

You see, an official Republic gives a Republican constitutional credibility.

Democrats, aided and abetted by the liberal media and the courts, prefer Democrat and "democracy" propaganda over historical fact.

And so the public somehow thinks that America is a "democracy," not a Republic.

The Democrats propaganda machine, like Hitler’s propaganda machine, recognizes that the bigger the lie, the louder the lie and the longer the lie is told, people will generally believe it.

The reason Democrats can get away with this is because the media goes along with it and history has been dumbed-down by the politically-correct Democrats to the point where "democracy" is drummed into our public educational system. Almost all of America’s colleges and universities are "liberal arts" schools.

However, the reason for America’s existence and success can be traced to its founding as a Republic - not to liberalism.

You may be thinking that I’m making much too much of the "democracy" and Republic issue.

Not so. We are a Constitutional Republic!

But liberals, over the past 40 years, have diluted and polluted our U.S. Constitution - the foundation of our Republic. The Constitution has been dumbed-down and down-sized for the benefit of liberals - not the citizens of our great Republic.

The Second Amendment protecting the citizens’ "right to bear arms" is practically worthless, and the 16th Amendment - the federal income tax - is constitutionally "illegal."

If this were a Constitutional Republic - a Republic governed by the "rule of law" - the Second Amendment would still be intact, and the 16th Amendment would not exist.

Under liberalization, American citizens are losing their rights and taxpayers are getting the shaft.

Unfortunately, Republicans have been brainwashed by the liberal media and courts into thinking more and more like Democrats since the 1960s, instead of as Constitutional Republicans enforcing the "rule of law."

Even Republican President George W. Bush talks about making Iraq and other Mideast Arab counties "democracies." Wrong. They should be reformed into Constitutional Republics, just as the United States was after the American Revolution.

Because of "Democracy,"America’s ideals, principles, morals, values and standards have been trashed by liberalism during the 20th Century.

Until that changes, liberalism will ultimately destroy America.



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posted on Aug, 13 2003 @ 02:08 PM
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Welcome to the boards Explain....

The bigger picture would involve a "doctrine of totalitarian socialism."

regards
seekerof

[Edited on 13-8-2003 by Seekerof]



posted on Aug, 13 2003 @ 02:12 PM
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I'm rather concerned it's turning into a Fascist state.

"The price of liberty is vigilance"



posted on Aug, 13 2003 @ 02:13 PM
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Thank ypou for pointing this out. I get tired of the same idiots assuming the same thing.

We are not a deomcracy, never have been, but a represitive republic. Democracy is a sham and failure, and seldom lasts long. You simply cant run an effective country with Democracy, things dip easily into Chaos. The greeks knew this, and scrapped the idea long ago.

The idea of Democracy is silly.



posted on Aug, 13 2003 @ 02:18 PM
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Originally posted by Frater
I'm rather concerned it's turning into a Fascist state.

"The price of liberty is vigilance"



Good point...totalitarian socialism is a form of fascism.

regards
seekerof



posted on Aug, 13 2003 @ 02:23 PM
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Thank ypou for pointing this out. I get tired of the same idiots assuming the same thing.

We are not a deomcracy, never have been, but a represitive republic.


Amen to that...



posted on Aug, 13 2003 @ 02:53 PM
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When I tried to move this I accidentally bumped it instead... it is moved and under control now.

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K_OS



posted on Aug, 13 2003 @ 02:55 PM
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Does that mean we can tell Colonel to STFU?

Republican = Patriot
Democrat = Living in lala land

j/k I just had to throw it in there.



posted on Aug, 13 2003 @ 02:59 PM
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Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf
Thank ypou for pointing this out. I get tired of the same idiots assuming the same thing.

We are not a deomcracy, never have been, but a represitive republic. Democracy is a sham and failure, and seldom lasts long. You simply cant run an effective country with Democracy, things dip easily into Chaos. The greeks knew this, and scrapped the idea long ago.

The idea of Democracy is silly.


Skadi, I know we had our differences on other posts but I'm in full agreement of you on this point!




posted on Aug, 13 2003 @ 06:35 PM
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I have to agree... the word democracy is used incorrectly all the time... We are in fact a republic...go figure.

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K_OS



posted on Aug, 13 2003 @ 07:29 PM
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I came across this realization a while back myself and felt like I'd been robbed, and in a way I had been robbed, we all have. In fact the more I looked into it what I found out is that we are now considered to be a "Domocratic-Republic", when and how that shell swap happened exactally I'm not too sure of, but it's not what our Forefathers wanted. In fact they spoke poorly of "Democratic" policy.

You mentioned saluting the flag also, there is more of a twist to it than you think...The original version was:
"I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands -- one nation indivisible -- with liberty and justice for all."
More on that and many other strange Facts here:
www.civil-liberties.com...

Among other things two difference between a "Democracy" and "Republic" is that under both there is Majority Rule, but only the Republic also included protection of the minority.

Second is that in a "Repulic" all people have certain rights or freedoms that are "God given" rights. Everyone has these, period. But in a "Democracy" your rights are decided by the "ruling body" or "government" and then given to the people as "privileges", these "privileges" are also taken away in this same way. You can see what a huge difference there is between "rights" and "privileges" when your freedom is concerned.



posted on Aug, 13 2003 @ 07:31 PM
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Yes, Explain...very good.

We are a constitutionalized republic that practices democracy.

Kudos.



posted on Aug, 13 2003 @ 07:32 PM
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Originally posted by Fry2
Does that mean we can tell Colonel to STFU?

Republican = Patriot
Democrat = Living in lala land

j/k I just had to throw it in there.


No, that means we rest assured that what's bugging Colonel...is cognitive dissidence.



posted on Aug, 13 2003 @ 08:25 PM
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Well, given the total control of industry and finance on US policies, even the term "republic" is inaccurate, as it translates to "the common good". "Plutocracy" is the technically correct term.



posted on Aug, 13 2003 @ 08:32 PM
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No Moku, that would be incorrect. But thank you for playing!



posted on Aug, 13 2003 @ 08:34 PM
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Could you expose on the grounds for your cognitive dissent ? The entire american media landscape is owned by corporate capital .. so where is the room for democracy ?



posted on Aug, 13 2003 @ 08:42 PM
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I think you nailed it:

plutocracy

\Plu*toc"ra*cy\, n. [Gr. ?; ? wealth + ? to be strong, to rule, fr.? strength: cf. F. plutocratie.] A form of government in which the supreme power is lodged in the hands of the wealthy classes; government by the rich; also, a controlling or influential class of rich men.

Mokuhadzushi, We don't want democracy, we want our republic back. Although I don't think anyone alive today has lived in a republic yet, so maybe I shouldn't say we want our republic back and just say we want our republic.



posted on Aug, 13 2003 @ 08:43 PM
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The media has nothing to do with democracy, Moku. What the heck are you talking about? I have no cognitive dissendence...I know where I live, and how it works. Colonel, on the other hand, is having mental spasms over it.

Yes, everything in my country is owned by a person, or a group of people (i.e. a corporation). That's how capitalism works, Moku. We practice democracy and capitalism...hand in hand. We are a constitutionalized republic....one that you just happen to hate. BUT that doesn't make us any different than what we are. A constitutionalized republic, that practices democracy AND captalism. And by majority, we love both.



posted on Aug, 13 2003 @ 08:57 PM
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V

The media are the centerpiece of democracy, how can you make up your mind on a subject without having been dished "information" on that subject before ?

Why do corporations selectively fund election campaigns ? Out of anthropophily ? What do they get in return ?



posted on Aug, 13 2003 @ 08:59 PM
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Moku, I don't think corporations should be able to fund election campaigns. See, it is possible to talk about the imperfections of a system without completely trashing the system.





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