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Joint Fighter F-35 to replace all of USAF F-16 and A-10

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posted on Jun, 23 2005 @ 04:29 AM
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The F-35 jointly produced by lockheed martin.
is to replace all F-16 and A-10 and even the Harriers and Hornets, of the navy and marine corps.

The new fighter jet yet to replace all the aircrafts above is a multi-role day and night, land and sea combat capable and offers air dominance to the USAF.

The F-35 speed is mech 2 and is highly systematical with virtual navigational system which allow most of the flying at intense high speeds to be done by the computer on board system, this was added to the aircraft because its needs this superiority for navy uses of the aircrafts as the navy also has requested for a replacement of the Harriers and Hornets. The aircraft is as capable as the F-22 Raptor also produced by the Lockheed martin. The F-22 is at price per peace $100 million but the F-35 is at price per peace of $47 million. The USAF first low cost high tech aircraft.

The F-35 is also using stealth technology which it needs for both the navy and marine corps it will be a fighter jet capable to attack with atmost power of stealth in the air, given the fact that about every stealth capable fighter jet has a very high intial cost for the USAF but this one just costing $47 million.

It is the best replacement of the Harriers which can do vertical-landings on landing areas. and the F-35 is integrated with this technology the Jumpjets
which are essential for the navy's use of the aircraft the F-35 has a weight of 30.000 ponds with out extra feul and missiles it is the worlds heaviest fighter jet to do vertical-lift off.

Question is this a good decision to take all of
F-16
A-10
Harriers
Hornets
out of services as that is entirly the main power of the USAF. The F-16 is the Backbone of the USAF as nearly 2000 are in operation in the USAF.

Is the USAF going for the right fighter jet with a price tag of $47 million of buying only 50 will have grand price of $2350 million.

it all to expensive as the and the so called low price high tech is intially very hard to maintain at a cheap price.

The F-35 joint strike fighter will be ready to use for the USAF in 2008.






[edit on 23-6-2005 by Interseptor]




posted on Jun, 23 2005 @ 08:10 AM
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Seeing as how the Navy is still procuring F/A-18E Super Hornets and has the "Stealth Hornet" on the drawing board, I'm not seeing how the F-35 could possibly replace it within the next 20 years. The Navy just doesn't have the cash to replace such a major investment as the F/A - 18E that quickly.

You made no distinction between front line units and the Air National Guard (ANG) and the F-16C will continue to be the backbone of ANG units for a long time yet. Front line F-16 units will however need to start transitioning to something within 10 years.

As for the Harrier, yes I could see that, and the A-10A is pretty much mothballed now anyway, take a look at the Davis Monthan inventory. All those lovely tankbusters are sitting in the desert.

Make the most of it all though, because the F-22 and the F-35 will represent the last generation of combat aircraft with an organic component.



posted on Jun, 23 2005 @ 08:30 AM
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F16 yes front line units

F18 Maybe if the stealth hornets don't work out

Harriers yep they have a bad track record and crash alot...

A10 - Nope they tryed to replace the A10 with F16 and it failed badly..... The are doing upgrades on a large % of them and replacing there wings. If they try to replace them they will fail. You need low and slow for effective ground support. The A10 is much cheeper then the F35 at a only 13 million each...



posted on Jun, 23 2005 @ 08:43 AM
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I see your point but still the F-35 has more capability then the F-18 and your right about the budget that hardly imposible I suppose that the F-18 to be replaced very very expensive to do but what if the USAF is selling them to friendly nation and it could be reasoned that may be they are able to fund ennough to replace them all.

here's a source to look at
www.fas.org...

I hope this may answer what I could not



posted on Jun, 23 2005 @ 09:27 AM
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The F18 super hornet is superior in all areas except for stealth. The F16 is more manuverable than the JSF but i dont know exactly how much more or less it can carry than the F16. I think it will be a good but rather costly replacement. I still would rather have the much better eurofighter which isnt that much more expensive iirc. This plane cannot replace the A10, I wish they had continued development of the A10B. The Harrier is getting old and it really needs replacement.



posted on Jun, 23 2005 @ 09:45 AM
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IMO they are all great aircraft... But if this one fighter can perform all there roles as good as or if not better then wouldnt it be economiclly feasable in the long run for the United States regarding matainence and parts. Training for both the pilots and crew would also become more streamlined as they would be focusing on only one fighter instead of three or four. Btw i have a large amount of affection for the fighter that may be replaced by this new aircraft so i am not bashing American tech at all


Thanks
Red Rose



posted on Jun, 23 2005 @ 09:45 AM
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May be the USAF should extend the A-10 after all they arrent going to get attacked head on by any nation in the world not even the Russians. A-10 is a great ground attacking aircraft and still will be in the world.

but the F-35 will give the capability of the A-10 and more but at a high intail cost. also i havent realy added the extra costs of training the personal.

well i believe that the USAF is trying to have a Air Force full of stealth aircrafts, as you may know USAF does not have really high quantity of stealth aircrafts in operation then its regular front line ones. I believe the USAF is trying to make more use of Stealth aircrafts as there front air defence system it may be costly but is very benificial also if this happens USAF will be the most power full in Air attack, Air defence and will easily be num 1 at least 50 years in air power, as you all may have heard about the EURO fighter Typhoon it is I believe why the USAF is trying to have Stealth fighter jet front line air force status



posted on Jun, 23 2005 @ 10:38 AM
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The USAF is expanding the lifespan of a good percentage of its A-10 and it is also upgrading the electronic and systems suite, this will give the A-10 a life span until 2025-2030.

The JSF will mainly replace the F-14’s and some F/A-18 only the old C/D versions not the E/F or future Hornet concepts.
And as others have said not all of the F-16 will be replaced by the F-35.



posted on Jun, 23 2005 @ 11:18 AM
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every body had that theory in mind it is very costly and nearly imposible to do to replace all of the F-16 and others that have been confirmed the point was that the USAF is willing to fund on its more adanced versions of aircrafts and replace them with a stealth capable aircrafts and also this will not take down the quality or the capability of USAF but increace the capability of the USAF, as there many counteries developing new fighter jets and this F-35 another point of new systems available to the USAF for use and may be sold to other counteries, and also another point the Euro fighter Typhoon is an aircraft which has more capability then the F-16/A-10/F-18/Harriers it is the top edge technology available, but when F-35 is in the way then the Typhoon lacks of stealth capability.



posted on Jun, 23 2005 @ 11:56 AM
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Originally posted by WestPoint23
The JSF will mainly replace the F-14’s and some F/A-18 only the old C/D versions not the E/F or future Hornet concepts.
And as others have said not all of the F-16 will be replaced by the F-35.


erm , it won`t

the F-35c is designed to replace the strike packages - not the BARCAP aircraft , as it doesn`t have the legs.

F-18E/F will do be the BARCAP aircraft - and of course is rather good as a strike package

so that agrners the wusetion - what role IS there for the F-35 in the navy??

[edit on 23-6-2005 by Harlequin]



posted on Jun, 23 2005 @ 12:13 PM
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well the F-35C will be used by the Navy as it has the requirements that the navy needs it will replace the old F-18 and give the Navy a more stealthy enviroment of attack.

The F-35C has a more larger wing surface and tail surface then the F-35A/B
it is because it will give more better navel carrier capabilities to land on the nevel carriers

Pic F-35C for the Navy



Also note that the Navy now has stealth aircrafts that are capable to attack other counteries.

[edit on 23-6-2005 by Interseptor]



posted on Jun, 23 2005 @ 12:29 PM
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Interseptor says:


USAF is selling them to friendly nation and it could be reasoned that may be they are able to fund ennough to replace them all.


That's not the way military procurement works, interseptor.

The Air Force is not selling airplanes, because they don't make them.

They are buying airplanes, from Lockmart.

Now it's true that the unit cost will be lower the more aircraft are sold, but tha's not because the manufacturing costs go down that much (although they do a little); it's because the non-recurring costs which include integrating subsystems, doing various RDT&E tasks, etc. are amortized over a larger number of aircraft.

The real winner will be Lockmart and their various tiers of subs.



posted on Jun, 23 2005 @ 12:51 PM
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Indeed your right about who will be the winner but USAF wont be loser to.
however the cost may rise the intended aircraft was mainly produced to support the counteries that invested and worked on it that includes USA, so I believe when it comes to who gets it all then no body really could be the winner.



posted on Jun, 23 2005 @ 01:43 PM
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How the hell is the F35 going to replace the F14? It cannot even carry long range AA missles except maybee for the Meteoor but then the ranges of missles are increasing so i guess meteor would turn into a medium ranged missle.



posted on Jun, 23 2005 @ 01:50 PM
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Originally posted by tomcat ha
How the hell is the F35 going to replace the F14? It cannot even carry long range AA missles except maybee for the Meteoor but then the ranges of missles are increasing so i guess meteor would turn into a medium ranged missle.


Sorry that Source is Bull it actually only the A-10/F-16/Hornets/Harriers
officialy

here read source to understand it better
www.fas.org...

I hope this may help to answer your question



posted on Jun, 23 2005 @ 01:51 PM
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Originally posted by tomcat ha
The F18 super hornet is superior in all areas except for stealth. The F16 is more manuverable than the JSF but i dont know exactly how much more or less it can carry than the F16. I think it will be a good but rather costly replacement. I still would rather have the much better eurofighter which isnt that much more expensive iirc. This plane cannot replace the A10, I wish they had continued development of the A10B. The Harrier is getting old and it really needs replacement.


I was watching a show on tv about the JSF, and some Air Force official said the JSF will be as manuverable as the F-16.



posted on Jun, 23 2005 @ 01:55 PM
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to NWguy83

And much much more it has stealth capability.
and has Jumjets to give it vertical-landing capability and alot more stuff.

have a read
www.fas.org...



posted on Jun, 23 2005 @ 01:55 PM
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Originally posted by tomcat ha
How the hell is the F35 going to replace the F14? It cannot even carry long range AA missles except maybee for the Meteoor but then the ranges of missles are increasing so i guess meteor would turn into a medium ranged missle.


The F/A-18 E/F will replace the F-14. New longer range versions of the AIM-120 are being developed to replace the AIM-54.



posted on Jun, 23 2005 @ 02:19 PM
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I have to say I think the USAF is nuts if it thinks it needs a hi-tech platform like the JSF to replace the A10.

If anything they should be dusting down the old 2 seat A10 (what was the old NAW version) plans and looking at how to update them for the kind of theatre of conflict far more likely to need them as opposed to any likelihood of the hi-tech being 'needed' to anything like the degree once thought.



posted on Jun, 23 2005 @ 02:24 PM
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for every bodies info on how they look like the AIM-120



and also how the the AIM-54 looks Like



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