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your added comment aside, thank you for the link. It did explain some aspects of the raid. Still, I wonder why the allies would stage such a raid, knowing the atrocious cost to civilian life that would result -- especially knowing that allied POWs camps were located there. Furthermore, the allies knowingly violated the Geneva Agreement in targeted for the knowledgable destruction of 22 hospitals. Was this really, ultimately, a political move by the allies to demonstrate air power to the Russians?
Originally posted by CaptainJailew
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden
A CONSPIRACY OOO! Maybe the Nazis were making undead soldiers made of steel and flesh who shot nuclear weapons from their fingers and toes! I doubt there was anything secret or crazy there, it isn't a conspiracy just bad politics and an even worse target.
Edit - added comment
[edit on 22-6-2005 by CaptainJailew]
Originally posted by akilles
Yeah, its not a conspiracy...
Just a few thousand well-planned deaths, is all people. Its not like the people we are talking about like to plan mega-Death events. oh wait, thats what they live for...
Yes, we need to look at the bombing of Dresden closer. It is a key event, much like the Japanese being willing to surrender PRIOR to the Atomic Bombs being dropped (the estimates of how many people would die in case of invasion, are ridiculous, because invasion was never necessary, even a public test of the Bomb would have done the trick).
It shows us that EXAMPLES were made in many countries, "Don't think it couldn't happen to you"
We can make the world cheer for your death, basically.
"We control the presses, we control the Japs and the Russians, we play both sides, Nazi and Allies, we kill civilians, we start countries where ever we want, even if it will cause 60 years of conflict, because we CAN. And afterwards, WE are the good guys"
Dresden was a sacrifice by fire, to make the world take notice.
It was ushering a new era, not of peace, but a silent, knowing fear. This was translated into the Cold War, and later realized again (^^^), with the public murder of JFK.
Originally posted by twitchy
Also interesting to note, Japan tried to surrender two weeks before we dropped the first of two nuclear devices on them.
Originally posted by djohnsto77
Originally posted by twitchy
Also interesting to note, Japan tried to surrender two weeks before we dropped the first of two nuclear devices on them.
That is ridiculous. The U.S., Britain and U.S.S.R. warned Japan through the Potsdam Declaration to surrender or face obliteration by a new weapon. Japan refused.
Although some civil agencies in Japan may have wanted the government to surrender, all the power was held by the military and the Emporer who had no intention of surrender until after the nuclear weapons were used.
The Potsdam Declaration of July 26, issued by the Allied powers and calling for "unconditional surrender," was not acceptable to the Japanese military, despite the declaration's threat that failure to surrender would be met by "complete destruction" of the military and the "utter devastation of the Japanese home land." Following ten days of Japanese silence, the atomic bomb was dropped on August 6, 1945, on the city of Hiroshima.
Originally posted by benevolent tyrant
your added comment aside, thank you for the link. It did explain some aspects of the raid. Still, I wonder why the allies would stage such a raid, knowing the atrocious cost to civilian life that would result -- especially knowing that allied POWs camps were located there. Furthermore, the allies knowingly violated the Geneva Agreement in targeted for the knowledgable destruction of 22 hospitals. Was this really, ultimately, a political move by the allies to demonstrate air power to the Russians?