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posted on Jun, 22 2005 @ 05:29 AM
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At Nuremberg, in early October 1945, the four prosecuting nations -- the United States, Great Britain, France and Russia -- issued an indictment against 24 men and six organizations of the Nazi Germany.



In September 2004, the incumbent UN Chief Kofi Annan made a very clear statement. Talking to BBC Annan said "the US-led invasion of Iraq was an illegal act that contravened the UN charter." Being the UN Chief, and the custodian of International law, he should have known what he was talking about.

The Nuremberg Trial Counts One & Two: Conspiracy to Wage Aggressive War and Waging Aggressive War. The "common plan or conspiracy" charge was designed to get around the problem of how to deal with crimes committed before the war. The defendants charged under Count One were accused of agreeing to commit crimes. Accusation for Count Two was defined in the indictment as "the planning, preparation, initiation, and waging of wars of aggression, which were also wars in violation of international treaties, agreements, and assurances."

Abundant evidence is now available that shows that leaders and advisers of the Bush and Blair administrations engaged in "planning, preparation, initiation or waging of a war of aggression." Iraq posed no threat to either the United States or Britain. Its government had neither the means nor the intent of waging war against these countries; nor did it issue any threat to them. It possessed no WMDs.

The events now bear out that the US administration had plans ready well before the 9/11 crime to not only invade Iraq, but also target much if not all of the Middle East. Former CIA Director James Woolsey and presidential advisor David Gergen have confirmed that. The war of "Operation Iraqi Freedom," was planned well over a decade earlier. All alibis put forward by Bush administration for the Iraqi invasion, and the resultant near-genocidal massacre, have now been fully exposed as fraudulent motives.

Bob Woodward, the Pulitzer Prize-winning Watergate reporter, clearly establishes that just five days after 9/11, the President was clandestinely scheming to go after Saddam Hussein and not bin Laden - the man purportedly responsible for the 9/11 attacks. In particular, 72 days after 9/11, Bush ordered Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld to draw up the secret war plans.

The Nuremberg Trial Counts Three and Four: War Crimes and Crimes Against Humanity. These Counts addressed the charges of atrocities committed against humanity in the death camps, concentration camps and killing rampages like the indiscriminate bombing of civilian population centers.

According to various sources, as a result of this genocidal war, over 24,000 Iraqi civilians have died directly and over 120,000 indirectly. The Afghanistan toll on civilians is cited any where between 6,000 and 10,000.

Substantial evidence is now available that the Bush administration leaders, and military personnel following orders of these leaders, have committed "violations of the laws or customs of war," including "murder . . . of civilian populations of or in occupied territory, murder or ill-treatment of prisoners of war . . . plunder of public or private property, wanton destruction of cities, towns, or villages, or devastation not justified by military necessity." The perpetrators' unjustifiable entreaties of military inevitability, of course, cannot free them of their actual crimes.

According to a August 2002 report by the UN sub commission, laws which are violated by the use of DU shells include: the Universal Declaration of Human Rights; the Charter of the United Nations; the Genocide Convention; the Convention Against Torture; the four Geneva Conventions of 1949; the Conventional Weapons Convention of 1980; and the Hague Conventions of 1899 and 1907, which expressly forbid employing 'poison or poisoned weapons' and 'arms, projectiles or materials calculated to cause unnecessary suffering'.

No legal genius, then, is required to indict George Bush, Tony Blair and a few other coalition leaders with violating:

* The United Nations Charter
* The 1945 Nuremberg Charter
* International humanitarian law
* The Geneva Conventions


source:
Information Cleaing House

Noam Chomsky once said, "If the Nuremberg laws were applied, then every post-war American President would have been hanged." If that be the case then some now would be hung and then re-hung.

After reading this Article, it just makes me Wonder how many People must Shout this Facts out in order to be Heard?

I think that Bush Administration is a bunch of Power Hungry Thieves and Liars, with Nothing but the Will to Make more Money - no its really not about the Money, because they have Plenty already!

Its about THE POWER.

Its about the Power to tell, Who stands in Line and Who sits in his Armchair.

Its about the Power to Dictate the World how to dance to Your Tune.

Its about the Power to Do what you Want, and Not be Opposed by Anybody - not even the Entire International Community.

Why were the Nurnberng Trials even Held, if the International Community has not the Balls to stop this Madness happenening Once Again - this time in a More Sophisticated Way, with Plenty of Powerful Propaganda Bombardment.

Dust off Nuremberg Files?

Damn RIGHT!


Nuremberg Trials

Nuremberg Principles

[edit on 22/6/05 by Souljah]




posted on Jun, 22 2005 @ 08:34 AM
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Well that isn't going to happen now is it? I am approaching a state of apathy regarding politics.

As soon as I see a non-violent revolution starting which calls for the end of this Administration I will join up and give them my voice, I will vote and do all I can and still hold my strong personal beliefs BUT whatever, hopeless.



posted on Jun, 22 2005 @ 08:47 AM
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so Osama bin laden is the hero in yer view and does not deserve to be hang either eh for the deaths of thousands and the bombing of innocent Iraqis? maybe FDR should be hang for invading Germany and bombing Japan and the occupation of both of the nations.
. its politics.



posted on Jun, 22 2005 @ 08:48 AM
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Originally posted by CaptainJailew
Well that isn't going to happen now is it? I am approaching a state of apathy regarding politics.

I dont think its going to happen either - Politics are getting more and More Corrupt and Frankyl, nobody even cares about Laws, Conventions or this Post.

I undestand Your Apathy Completly.



As soon as I see a non-violent revolution starting which calls for the end of this Administration I will join up and give them my voice, I will vote and do all I can and still hold my strong personal beliefs BUT whatever, hopeless.

Sorry My Friend, but there is NO such thing as a Non-Violent Revolution....



posted on Jun, 22 2005 @ 08:53 AM
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Originally posted by deltaboy
so Osama bin laden is the hero in yer view and does not deserve to be hang either eh for the deaths of thousands and the bombing of innocent Iraqis? maybe FDR should be hang for invading Germany and bombing Japan and the occupation of both of the nations.
. its politics.

Hey deltaBOY,

How many times do I have to tell you that OBL is NOT my Hero?

Why do you think that?

I personally think that OBL is still in full cooperation with the dear ol' CIA - and if I am Correct, he should Hang with the Rest of the Criminals that Deserve it!

If he is still Alive at all...

And how the hell is HE responsible for Deaths of Thousand Iraqi's?

Was he the GENIUS that connected Al-Qaeda with Iraq?

Nope.

And its POLITRICKS - not Politics.

[edit on 22/6/05 by Souljah]



posted on Jun, 22 2005 @ 09:01 AM
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Originally posted by Souljah
Sorry My Friend, but there is NO such thing as a Non-Violent Revolution....


Gandhi, MLK Jr.



posted on Jun, 22 2005 @ 09:05 AM
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Originally posted by deltaboy
so Osama bin laden is the hero in yer view and does not deserve to be hang either eh for the deaths of thousands and the bombing of innocent Iraqis? maybe FDR should be hang for invading Germany and bombing Japan and the occupation of both of the nations.
. its politics.


whatever, im apathetic.

To clarify I meant that I think that domestic politics within the US have become too entangled with capitalism and corporations to be truly representative of the people any longer. Politicians represent the people, sure, but we need to add the caveat "politicians represent the people (who make over 200k annually)"

It's just true, if it wasn't then there would not be a need to pass soft-money laws, if it wasn't true then I think Bush would be more willing to pass pro-environmental laws at the limited expense of industry, etc etc ad infinitum.



posted on Jun, 23 2005 @ 02:50 PM
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Iagree with a non-violent end. You know how you do it? Stop paying your taxes. Here in Canada when the Fiberals started to get out of hand the Canadian Taxpayers Union(or some such name) made the point that if just one city didn't pay taxes for one day the Federal Government would end up lossing this rediculus amount of cash. I know here in Toronto our former mayor Lastman, said something about that to the Proviences saying that we were getting royally nixed with transfer payments and such and we would do better without sending them any money and serving ourself's. Thankfully HArris was in at the time and the issue got resolved sorta, but hitting them where it hurts is key.

Don't vote, they don't care. Vote, they don't care. Afterall what are you really doing with voting other than changing the name plates? But stop paying the bastards and see what happens.



posted on Jun, 23 2005 @ 03:31 PM
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I hope i live to see the day when a non violent revolution takes place...but its nearly impossible, you have to shed blood.

Ghandi and Martin.L.King didnt lead revolutions.
King changed only the civil rights of people, but he affected america in a profound and everlasting way, it wasnt a revolution, he didnt replace the goverment.

Ghandi and his passive resistance movment did change the politics of India, freeing it fron the British Raj, but only in a time when it was impossible for England to maintain India as part of the empire, so it was a peaceful and more or less given transition to independecy.

Never the less, in light of the facts that the Iraq had NO wmds, and that the attacks were planned months if not years in advance with the help of Blair, and with the amount of false information used as an exscuse for what is now a clear war of aggression with no just basis, using the Nuremberg trials as a guidline, we must accept that both Bush and Blair are guilty of war crimes by waging an unjust war.

Its time for the international powers that be to ask Bush and Blair to account for their actions.

In 1939 hitler used an attack on a radio station on the polish - german border as his exscuse to attack Poland, the attack was fake, the dead where prisoners from a camp dressed in German army uniforms, shot and photographed, the nazi controlled press did the rest.
What followed was hitlers justified occupation of Poland..

Sound familiar ???



posted on Jun, 23 2005 @ 03:52 PM
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I think if the UN's going to put anyone on trial they should start with themselves.

www.washingtontimes.com...

www.heritage.org...



[edit on 23-6-2005 by evanfitz]



posted on Jun, 24 2005 @ 03:49 AM
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Originally posted by evanfitz
I think if the UN's going to put anyone on trial they should start with themselves.

www.washingtontimes.com...

www.heritage.org...

I agree with You on this Point.

But this article is not about UN putting on trial these People - the Nuremberg Trials are just used to make a Comparison between WW2 Criminals and these Dogs of War we see today.

I think UN is a bunch of Cheap Lying Politicians anyway, that always make decisions when its kind of late. Check out Sudan and entire African Problem. What they Hell are they doing in that direction?


BTW: Who's that on your Avatar Photo? Looks like mister Erwin "the Desert Fox" Rommel.



posted on Jun, 24 2005 @ 12:18 PM
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BTW: Who's that on your Avatar Photo? Looks like mister Erwin "the Desert Fox" Rommel.


Yeah, thats Field Marshal Rommel. I chose this pic for its dark and mysterious feeling it gives off. I trust you know enough about him to understand why I chose this photo.



P.S. my apologies to the excessive editing. Im still figuring the quoting and such.

[edit on 24-6-2005 by evanfitz]



posted on Jul, 13 2005 @ 03:35 AM
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Evan,

Do not worry about it.

We all went through the same learning curve.

Cheers

BHR





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