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reply posted on 22-6-2005 @ 09:55 PM by MauiStacey
I hate to sound like an alarmist but for years I have read several stories about box cars and the American Concentration camps. I fear something regarding marshal law may be approaching.

www.prolognet.qc.ca...
www.issuesandalibis.org...

I know just being on this site make you paranoid, but maybe just being aware of what might happen is a good thing.

Do a google on American concentration camps and boxcars. For years people have been saying that martial law will come. Million will be sent to these camps and gassed in the box cars.


reply posted on 26-6-2005 @ 11:14 AM by ARNOMANNN
Here's a bit of different spin on this.Maybe all this is leading up to a massive "ethnic cleansing of the US and possibly Canada of muslims as a result of this so called war on terrorism.Remember what happened to the japanese citizens of the US during WW2.This can happen again,if the country feels there is a threat from within from its own citizens.Remeber,this isn't a war against the United States,this is a war of religious ideals which has been going on for centuries.You have a pro-christian government in the US versus the fundamentalist Islamic extremist which has a wide sympathetic support throughout it's community-even in the United States and Canada.There has been alot of discussion about the two faces of islam in North America lately and there has also been alot of suspiscious terror-related incidents which have happened lately which lead me to believe that something is about to happen which could trigger an event which would start the whole thing rolling.Remeber,the government will keep things quite to dispell mass panic and also not to alert their enemies to what's going on.I think this is all part of something which has been in the works for years,just like they knew there would be a succesful attack on the US since the first WTC attack in 1993.I may be way out in left field with this,but I just can't see them randomly selecting people for mass execution without reason.I also saw the list of the prison camps and I would like to know if anyone knows the exact location of the FEMA camp near Buffalo-I would like to see this for myself......Cheers!!!!


reply posted on 26-6-2005 @ 08:03 PM by shadow watcher
I have heard about this and I seen the pics. I have heard both sides of the story as well. I have yet to hear an alternative reason for the shackle cars. Last night I listened to an archive from the talk radio show The Edge. The Edge

I was disappointed about the show though. She had some good points, but it devolved into a religious thing. Hit the link if you want to listen. It is half way down. The Edge is a good show, you dont need to be a member to hear.


reply posted on 26-6-2005 @ 08:38 PM by invisibleplane
I wouldn't be surprised if this is extremely related to that of underground bases
anyone remember PHIL SCHNIEDER?!

Schneider's Worries About Government Factions, Railroad Cars and Shackle Contracts:

"Now, I am very worried about the activity of the the federal government. They have lied to the public, stonewalled senators, and have refused to tell the truth in regard to alien matters. I can go on and on. I can tell you that I am rather disgruntled. Recently, I knew someone who lived near where I live in Portland, Oregon. He worked at Gunderson Steel Fabrication, where they make railroad cars. Now, I knew this fellow for the better part of 30 years, and he was kind of a quiet type. He came in to see me one day, excited, and he told me "they're building prisoner cars." He was nervous. Gunderson, he said, had a contract with the federal government to build 107,200 full length railroad cars, each with 143 pairs of shackles. There are 11 sub-contractors in this giant project. Supposedly, Gunderson got over 2 billion dollars for the contract. Bethlehem Steel and other steel outfits are involved. He showed me one of the cars in the rail yards in North Portland. He was right. If you multiply 107,200 times 143 times 11, you come up with about 15,000,000. This is probably the number of people who disagree with the federal government. No more can you vote any of these people out of office. Our present structure of government is "technocracy", not democracy, and it is a form of feudalism. It has nothing to do with the republic of the United States. These people are god-less, and have legislated out prayer in public schools. You can get fined up to $100,000 and two years in prison for praying in school. I believe we can do better. I also believe that the federal government is running the gambit of enslaving the people of the United States. I am not a very good speaker, but I'll keep shooting my mouth off until somebody puts a bullet in me, because it's worth it to talk to a group like this about these atrocities.


reply posted on 26-6-2005 @ 09:17 PM by Montana
If you could post some pictures, I could give you a good guess as to why those boxcars are not in use. There are several reasons cars are held out of service for long periods of time. With some pictures I could give a general idea of their age, use and ownership.

As far as the shackle cars reported in Montana, sorry. I've personally been to the places they were reported and there's nothing there. I have seen and inspected literally tens of thousands of boxcars and have never seen a shackle car. And guillotines? What is this the middle ages????? There are MUCH more efficient ways to dispose of a population. Don't waste our time with that one.

Satellite receivers on RR cars are becoming commonplace. Nearly every international shipment is tracked by satellite from beginning to end. There are several membership websites that can be logged on to that will give you an exact lat and long of any of these cars. Again it's a very common technology. All engines built for road service since about 1995 have not only satellite locators, but also the capability for remote control via satellite incorporated into their computers. This capability is still being developed and is not reliable yet, but it's there.

All that being said, if I were to decide to transport large numbers of people across long distances, there would only be one way and that's by rail. Pictures of these cars would help determine a few things, but equally important would be pictures of the tracks leading to the storage area and of the switches on the tracks. That would tell me a lot more as far as the readiness of the cars, and how soon the owners - whoever that is - expect to use them.

Looking forward to seeing what there is.....


reply posted on 26-6-2005 @ 10:30 PM by Legalizer
THE FACTS-GUNDERSON PRISONER BOXCARS WITH SHACKLES-A REPORT

More on the story from Portland indymedia, from this February (link above is from march 2004, ie, a year earlier for those who tune into this thread in the future.).

Apparently this article is a reply to those who doubt the first article...from what I can see in the first paragraph.

Oh in case you haven't clicked watcher's link above, it has pictures, so if some of those pics can be explained that would be good.



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