releasing sex offenders

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posted on Jun, 21 2005 @ 04:36 AM
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look at this

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What do you think?




posted on Jun, 21 2005 @ 01:22 PM
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I think...that maybe the criteria used by registries needs to change. As it stands, the offender registries rarely offer enough backgroun to enable the public to discern between the man who rapes 5 year olds, and the 18 year old who has sex witha 15 year old, after she lied about her age. All too often the crimes are not specified - all we see is "Joe Bloggs, living at blah blah blah, registration expires (insert date).

There's a world of difference between the two - in terms of motivation, etc. - and it seems a little excessive to bestow upon the latter, the same rules which apply to the former.

That said, child sex offenders in particular have a terrible rehabilitation rate....most will reoffend if a) s/he hasn't received the appropriate counselling, and b) the opportunity presents itself. The urge rarely goes away - the best we can all hope for (including the offender) is that s/he won't actually act upon those urges.



posted on Jun, 21 2005 @ 03:07 PM
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Well, if they are repeat offenders, than they should be kept in prison, however, if they are rehabilitated and are once again productive members of society than why bother them.



posted on Jun, 22 2005 @ 12:11 AM
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I really disagree with this it better to execute these people.


If he is out he is terrorising the victim's realtion where there are still sad for there daughter .

Its hard for them to live day by day trying to live with those hauted things inside there head and send them to jail wont do that much because the are there having a possible to go out and maybe return to his old stuff again.

Murders and rapist should be executed not only for the families but also for other psychos like them to think twice that it a serious crime.

This is an Outrage



posted on Jun, 22 2005 @ 12:35 AM
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I definitely think it depends on the crime, its horrible how people are just thrown in to this "sex offenders" group. Now, i dont know much about this sort of thing, but from what i've been told, if your on a road trip, and going through a deserted area and pull over to the side of the road to take a piss, and get caught by a cop, (and the cops an @$$!) Then for the rest of your life you will have to register as a sex offender. How is that right? IT ISNT! And like the example that has already been given, an 18 year old that has sex with a 15 year old that lied about their age. How is it right that 18 year old is punished and have to live their life constantly being watched, and controlled.



posted on Jun, 22 2005 @ 12:51 AM
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Originally posted by antigovFZ777
I definitely think it depends on the crime, its horrible how people are just thrown in to this "sex offenders" group. Now, i dont know much about this sort of thing, but from what i've been told, if your on a road trip, and going through a deserted area and pull over to the side of the road to take a piss, and get caught by a cop, (and the cops an @$$!) Then for the rest of your life you will have to register as a sex offender. How is that right? IT ISNT! And like the example that has already been given, an 18 year old that has sex with a 15 year old that lied about their age. How is it right that 18 year old is punished and have to live their life constantly being watched, and controlled.


I agree with you but what about Jack the Ripper wannabeez what do you have to say about them.

As for internet sex offender are on of the worst in recent years where they have a connecton with other sex offender in the states



posted on Jun, 22 2005 @ 07:03 AM
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Originally posted by eazy_mas
I really disagree with this it better to execute these people.

If he is out he is terrorising the victim's realtion where there are still sad for there daughter .

Its hard for them to live day by day trying to live with those hauted things inside there head and send them to jail wont do that much because the are there having a possible to go out and maybe return to his old stuff again.

Murders and rapist should be executed not only for the families but also for other psychos like them to think twice that it a serious crime.


Except that execution rarely deters anyone else from committing the same offense.

But why are we assuming that freedom means the rapist is terrorising the family or the victim?

It's unfair to treat every convict the same way; what about those who are convicted of statutory rape (who very, very, very rarely reoffend)? The crime is really not the same as those of a "serial rapist".

With the exception of serial rapists and child sex offenders, the recidivism rate is actually very low; it also begs the question, can we seriously punish someone for crimes they haven't yet committed ?

Don't misunderstand my point of view here though; life sentences should mean life sentences in my opinion, and child sex offenders (along with serial rapists) should generally speaking have no option for parole.

That's why having only one set of rules for all sex offenders is unfair.

(And the death penalty doesn't deter. But I'm not sure this should turn into a death penalty debate)



posted on Jun, 22 2005 @ 09:08 AM
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When a rapist attack his victims it not random they study them bit by bit every movemrnt and time of leaveing stuff like that . no ower subiject


If someone taken you loved one and he got to go to jail for lets say 25 years for 1st degree and when he comes out he wont bring him/her back would he. They felling that insides the person becomes more and more wanting take this matter into his own hand see a movie with the name ' Eye for an Eye'

Did you remeber a cause in britian last year I think when 2 girls disappeared wearing Man United jersy . I read the guys profile and story this guy had raped before anf robbed but he was not charged . Those sex offender if not dont anything they become stronger and cruel and more voilent the thing will come. He is in a world where he thinks he is a god towards those little poor girls he manupilate them.

There is another movie call " The Woods Man" its the same idea about the sex offenders.


Some of these girls are even offended by someone so close to them that are from the same blood . Yes some are offended by there father and that one of the worst how would you forgive this man ?!?!?!

It better the authorities excute those rapist and murders before things get nastier because there are many people worst than them and they should be warned that this crime is very serious.

Its hard to give those people second chance if most of there victims still fear them as you read through the article where the socity will still treat him as what he done and they will come back the same.



posted on Jun, 22 2005 @ 09:35 AM
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I believe more info should be listed about the offenders. The government should actually push for more restrictions. Anyone who would abuse a child like that deserves to be in a living hell.



posted on Jun, 22 2005 @ 10:01 AM
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Originally posted by eazy_mas
When a rapist attack his victims it not random they study them bit by bit every movemrnt and time of leaveing stuff like that . no ower subiject


Not every rape victim is profiled or "targeted" - many are random. Simply being in the wrong place, at the wrong time.

I'm a Brit - so yes, I remember the case you mentioned very well. That's why I made the distinction though - he had a history of child sex accusations....and I'll reiterate, that not every sex offender is the same.



Some of these girls are even offended by someone so close to them that are from the same blood . Yes some are offended by there father and that one of the worst how would you forgive this man ?!?!?!


I said nothing about forgiving




It better the authorities excute those rapist and murders before things get nastier because there are many people worst than them and they should be warned that this crime is very serious.


I never said that crime wasn't serious, either. It's a heinous, despicable crime. But again, not every rapist is the same, in the same manner that not every murder is the same. That's not excusing the crime, by any means - but trying to find a just of dealing with each case on it's own merit, rather than applying (for example) the death penalty to every case. We've seen throughout history that the death penalty simply doesn't work so well as a deterrant.

It's very easy to generalise about sex crimes - but the fact remains, that not every act is the same, either in consequence or motivation.



posted on Jun, 22 2005 @ 10:20 AM
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Death pentaly is better because you could rest the victims heart or at least his family if the victims are dead.

Some people are different than others because most people will try to take thing on there own hands so its better the law take care of that than a gang war field and may cause the bloodshed of generation most ccultures have these thing its in the blood.

As for the sex offenders those are worst than murders because they keep hauting there victims through there thoughs for years. Its hard to erase this on the childs or a womens mind espically if it was voilent and multiple. It will keep sticking in there brain and they may become paranoid or in worse scenrio could comminte suicide. As people in a society we should take great attention to the victims because even maybe after years and years past they are still hauting .

Yes some sex offenders could change but you cant take the risk of the whole commiunty for just a single person whole commint an awful crime would you? and could the change thing maybe but there could make thing worst too.



posted on Jun, 22 2005 @ 12:05 PM
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They're already dangerous and insane. I say make the rest of their lives miserable- Its well deserved.

They should be made to sign as a sex offender BEFORE they leave jail. You expect a criminal to follow rules? I guess currently they are looking for thousands who never registered. Surprise?




posted on Jun, 22 2005 @ 06:31 PM
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Originally posted by dgtempe
They're already dangerous and insane. I say make the rest of their lives miserable- Its well deserved.

They should be made to sign as a sex offender BEFORE they leave jail. You expect a criminal to follow rules? I guess currently they are looking for thousands who never registered. Surprise?



Can't tell if you're being serious or not here, so I'll go with "yup, I'm serious". K?


Obviously, not every sex offender is insane - in either a legal or clinical sense. Likewise, not every sex offender can be regarded as dangerous for the rest of his life - because many will never even have the urge to reoffend, let alone actually act upon that urge.

And that's precisely why we can't make an across-the-board recommendation - there's simply too much variation in motivation, actual criminal acts, and risk of recidivism.

It's not black and white - the sooner we start to realise that, the better off we might be.



posted on Jun, 22 2005 @ 08:07 PM
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What I think they should do, is perform a neurological restructuring, and equip a locator chip/behavior chip in there brains, wipe there memories, give them a new identity and put them back into society.



posted on Jun, 23 2005 @ 03:19 AM
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Originally posted by iori_komei
What I think they should do, is perform a neurological restructuring, and equip a locator chip/behavior chip in there brains, wipe there memories, give them a new identity and put them back into society.


Perhaps an odd sentiment from a fellow Buddhist


(Karma, anyone?
)

Seriously though. There seems to be a correlation between repressed sexuality and child sex crimes; in other words, the places where sexuality is often taboo, or "not talked about", there tends to be a higher incidence of sex crimes.

Any comments?

(should I start up a new threadskidoodle?)



posted on Dec, 14 2005 @ 10:32 PM
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They never ever EVER should be released! Period.



posted on Dec, 15 2005 @ 04:19 AM
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Originally posted by Zaimless
They never ever EVER should be released! Period.


But they have to release them to make room for all those horrible potheads, which as everyone knows are the real threat to children everywhere.



posted on Dec, 15 2005 @ 04:44 AM
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Originally posted by Ambient Sound
But they have to release them to make room for all those horrible potheads, which as everyone knows are the real threat to children everywhere.



You beat me to it.

Why is it that everyone is so worried about the availability of information on dangerous persons living near them? Why not be worried about the fact that there are dangerous persons living near you?

How about asking why, if someone is enough of a threat that they need to be put on a registry or not allowed to be in the presence of firearms, are they free to roam the street?

The reason these people get out early and get slapped on the wrist is prison overcrowding. Who is overcrowding these prisons? 70% of the incarcerated population in the US are there for non-violent, drug related offences.

So there, Mr. I love little girls too much and Mr. I shook my baby to death cause it wouldn’t shut up are out walking the street so you can send a message to the kids and destroy freedom (see: wiping your butt with the constitution) with a "War on Drugs" that has produced ZERO positive results. Every year, more and more people are locked for victimless crimes and more and more people become criminals by using drugs, and every year we throw more and more of your money at the problem.


Ask the important questions, like why a child-rapist living next door instead of the prison in the first place.





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