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Originally posted by DanD9
It's our fault! Yes, it is. All of the death and suffering and misery, all our fault! We are all miserable sinners in need of God's grace.
There is nothing wrong with humanism.. in fact Jesus is the most famous one.. problem is many of his fans just preach what he preached instead of actually practicing it.
Originally posted by Tinkleflower
I'm not sure why this thread was posted, in all honesty. The original post was a personal manifesto, almost a sermon. What does that serve?
Are we here to discuss why humans are or are not responsible for their actions? Or are we going to go back and fort, perhaps quoting/misquoting religious texts instead of offering tangible proof of our claims?
Originally posted by riley
Myself, I'm quite happy to discuss this without quoting scripture. As a humanist.. I think we should nurture and protect humanity.. which means eachother. Some may think this philosphy evil despite it being capable of preventing wars and poverty.. obviously their own beliefs have failed in this regard [even with the promises] so they can't really take the high moral ground without it turning to quicksand.
[edit on 21-6-2005 by riley]
That is not humanism, that's being kind! Humanism is when people think that they do not need saving, or that humanity can solve all its problems. Can humanity solve death? No. Even if there were cures for every disease, and perfect treatments of every injury, some things are just not repairable (such as getting vaporised by an atom bomb or asteroid impact.) Only the Lord can give someone eternal life, and a way of not getting bored Besides, if you follow Christianity (and do it better than me!) and it wasnt true, you'd still have the best moral values because you would know that you have to answer to someone.