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Requesting U.S.A. to become a fascist empire.

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posted on Jun, 20 2005 @ 05:51 PM
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I am a U.S. citizen. Now that its well known that the U.S. can and will lie its way into war, among other hypocrisy, I am requesting the United States of America to become what it pretends it is not: a fascist empire.

Reforms or accountability that would upset the rich and rulers of the country and their supporters need not take place. They're obviously not going to happen. However in the interest of attempting to keep fewer ill-informed U.S. citizens from sacrificing their lives and killing and maiming others over blatant lies, I am simply wanting the truth to be told regarding all military ventures. Go ahead and enact a draft if telling the truth would keep away enlistees. Its better that way. At least then nobody dies a fool.

Get rid of The United Nations and all other organizations that stand in the way of U.S. hegemony. Just please inform the citizenry of your intentions.

I also would prefer the truth be known regarding law creations and most foreign and domestic policies concerning economic and health issues.

[edit on 20-6-2005 by Frith]




posted on Jun, 20 2005 @ 06:09 PM
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if America is becoming an Fascist Empire u wouldnt be requesting something like this. i doubt we want to become somthing that we helped destroy during WW2 for example Italy who allied with Nazi Germany. yer just trying to make a political epithet.



posted on Jun, 21 2005 @ 02:07 AM
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Originally posted by Frith
I am a U.S. citizen. Now that its well known that the U.S. can and will lie its way into war, among other hypocrisy, I am requesting the United States of America to become what it pretends it is not: a fascist empire.


Please tell me why you think we're becoming fascist. And bare in mind; just about all government have at least a few similarities to fascism other than anarchism I guess.


Reforms or accountability that would upset the rich and rulers of the country and their supporters need not take place.


What's wrong with the rich?


Go ahead and enact a draft if telling the truth would keep away enlistees. Its better that way. At least then nobody dies a fool.


Are you implying that we're going to impiment a draft? What evidence do you have of this?



posted on Jun, 23 2005 @ 01:00 AM
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Your missing the point of his post he's saying to stop being hypocrites and be straight up with us. Dont say one thing and do another if we're going to do evil deeds then there is no sense in being squeamish about it go for it whole hog.



posted on Jul, 9 2005 @ 11:26 PM
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Hmmmm. I haven''t read too many dissenting opinions. So I suppose admitting imperialist intentions and turning the U.S.A. into a overt fascist state is acceptable to just about everybody.

[edit on 9-7-2005 by Frith]



posted on Jul, 10 2005 @ 02:06 AM
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Originally posted by Frith
Hmmmm. I haven''t read too many dissenting opinions. So I suppose admitting imperialist intentions and turning the U.S.A. into a overt fascist state is acceptable to just about everybody.

[edit on 9-7-2005 by Frith]


So I suppose you're just going to ignore my post? By the way, the reason most people aren't replying is because the prospect of the U.S. being facist is completely absurd.



posted on Jul, 10 2005 @ 02:25 AM
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Originally posted by Herman
So I suppose you're just going to ignore my post?


Your original reply honestly had nothing to do what the content of my topic. So I didn't feel the need to respond to your questions within it. That would veer the thread off-topic and I am not going to do that in a topic I create.

Reasons for why the U.S.A. is fascist are discussed in many other threads here. I don't need to repeat them.

[edit on 10-7-2005 by Frith]



posted on Jul, 10 2005 @ 03:24 AM
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Reasons why it is clear that people haven't a clue about word definitions is evident. No need in regurgitating their attempts at painting the U.S. as fascist.

Your fatal flaw is the usagae of the word, "fascist".
This word has become the magic bullet for every ignorant person who knows something is wrong but hasn't gleened enough information to figure out what it is that is horribly askew.

Yes, something is wrong, but no, it isn't fascism. Quit shallowly buying into the fellow-shallow-swimmers' shrill screams of fascism. The problem goes way back, farther than Fascism will take you.
They have come right out and screamed it in your face a week or so ago, when the Supreme Court made it clear that you have no right to property. If they want, they can force you out of your home for the sake of more revenue, and they can bust into your home and take your home-grown pot, even though you made no commercial transaction to gain it.

What more do you need to understand? You need more?!? Go back to cable sitcoms if you haven't figured it out by now. You won't be alone, 99.9% of thepopulation is in front of the boob tube with you.

They will not come right out and tell you, but they have to leave clear and understandable clues, in order to be "honest" about what is going on. The fact that most Americans are ignorant (Ignore what they see and ignore knowledge that would help them understand they are chattel property) is not the fault of those who control our government. Many of the clues have been around for decades, so we should have awakened by now!

[edit on 10-7-2005 by Thomas Crowne]



posted on Jul, 10 2005 @ 11:57 AM
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Originally posted by Frith
Your original reply honestly had nothing to do what the content of my topic. So I didn't feel the need to respond to your questions within it. That would veer the thread off-topic and I am not going to do that in a topic I create.

Reasons for why the U.S.A. is fascist are discussed in many other threads here. I don't need to repeat them.

[edit on 10-7-2005 by Frith]


No, no, no, don't try to pull that card on me. My reply had everything to do with your post. I called you out on what you were saying, and you didn't have an answer. Don't try to tell me you don't need to respond to them because other people have said them. Other people have also countered them, so I guess that means I don't need to respond either? And if you still don't think you need to respond, let me go over with you how my replies did indeed relate to your topic.


posted by Frith: I am a U.S. citizen. Now that its well known that the U.S. can and will lie its way into war, among other hypocrisy, I am requesting the United States of America to become what it pretends it is not: a fascist empire.



Posted by me: Please tell me why you think we're becoming fascist.
I think this one speaks for its self.


And bare in mind; just about all governments have at least a few similarities to fascism other than anarchism I guess.


What I was saying here is that all governments do have some similarities to fascism. Just because a government has traits of fascism, does not make it fascist or anything close. All governments aren't 100% different than each other.

And then, Frith, I believe you said this:

Reforms or accountability that would upset the rich and rulers of the country and their supporters need not take place.


And I think I said this:

What's wrong with the rich?


You see, when you said "Reforms or accountability that would upset the rich, it made me curious as to why you think the rich needs to be targeted. Yeah, there are a few dishonest people who have wrongly made their way to the richest among us, but a lot of them are just hardworking people who have made it to the top. What do you have against them? Does the rich relate to fascism?

Oh, and then you said:

Go ahead and enact a draft if telling the truth would keep away enlistees. Its better that way. At least then nobody dies a fool.


And then I said:

Are you implying that we're going to impiment a draft? What evidence do you have of this?


See, if your implication that the government is going to enact a draft relates to fascism at all, then my question of "What evidence do you have of this?" does indeed relate to your topic. But of course, you don't feel a need to respond to my questions.



posted on Jul, 13 2005 @ 03:59 PM
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Here's a link focusing on the trend of American fascism:

www.oldamericancentury.org...

Fascism is right-wing policies taken to an extreme. Just as socialism is to the extreme left, fascism is to the extreme right. Rather than being based on Marxist views of total equality like the left, fascism embraces clear social classes that are to interact with each other to ensure a country's productivity and benefit large businesses and corporations, which is clearly right-winged.

Further, fascist nations are extremely "patriotic" (ie, nationalist), and militarized.





Dishonest, fradulent elections..



That's from a staged riot over the recount. All republicans. And can anyone say Diebold? Fair, unbiased elections are crucial to a democracy. Hmm.




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