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reply posted on 22-3-2010 @ 09:59 PM by asafum08
although it may have not gotten the time to be forgotten as i have recently written it i feel as if it could become a good reference to understand motive if the tread i created gets replied to lol.

The Reason Why They Do It.

I'm sorry for the shameless self promotion of a recent post but i can see it getting lost already and I honestly need the responses to further my understanding of the topic and feel it would be a great help to others as well if developed.


reply posted on 19-7-2010 @ 07:34 PM by Extant Taxon
Shameless self bump to the power of 4:

9/11 - The American Continent as Monolithic Grimoire of the Cryptocracy

(I don't hold to some of the info laid out in the above but it was my first ATS mega-thread so... )

ATS resource thread for the Western Esoteric Tradition and clandestine organizations

The Céile Dé Priest Masons & the "Black Art" - Black Artisans, Black Dogs, and the B(l)ack-to-front Language

The new concentration camp

Best. Cinematic. Scene. Ever.

Originally posted by Extant Taxon
The following video is from a superb film called My Dinner With Andre. I think the clip is especially prescient and poignant as regards the direction the world is taking. Consider the following scene itself, read the quoted excerpt for reference, discuss:




"But has it ever occured to you Wally that the process that creates this boredom that we see in the world now may be a self perpetuating, unconscious form of brainwashing created by a world totalitarian government based on money? And that all of this is much more dangerous than one thinks? And it's not just a question of individual survival Wally, but that someone who is bored is asleep, and somebody who is asleep will not say no? See, I keep meeting these people. Just a few days ago I met this man I greatly admire, a Swedish physicist, Gustav Jondstreim. And he told me that he no longer watches television, he no longer reads newspapers, and he doesn't read magazines. He's completely cut them out of his life, because he really does feel that we're living in some sort of Orwellian nightmare now, and that everything that you hear now contributes into turning you into a robot. And when I was at Findhorn, I met this extraordinary English tree expert who devoted his life to saving trees. Just got back from Washington lobbying to save the Redwoods, he's eighty-four years old and always travels with a backpack becuase he never knows where he's going to be tomorrow.
When I met him at Findhorn he said, 'Where are you from?'

I said, 'New York'.

'Ah yes, New York. That's a very interesting place. Do you know a lot of New Yorkers that say that they want to leave but never do?'

I said, 'Oh yes'.

'Why do you think they don't leave?'

I gave him different banal theories.

He said: 'Oh, I don't think it's that way at all.' He said, 'I think that New York is the new model for the new concentration camp where the camp has been built by the inmates themselves, and the inmates are the guards and they have this pride in this thing they built, they've built their own prison, and so they exist in a state of schizophrenia where they are both guards and prisoners and as a result they no longer have, having been lobotomized, the capacity to leave the prison they've made or even see it as a prison.'

And then he went into his pocket and took out a seed for a tree and said, 'This is a pine tree.' He put it in my hand and said, 'Escape. Before it's too late.'



reply posted on 7-5-2011 @ 06:56 AM by JerryB08
While I disagree with both. One conspiracy has a gain. Could in fact have happened with very few people being involved. Doesn't defy logic. Where for the other to happen at least 10, 000 people would to be in the know, there is np believable or reasonably gain vs the risks of extremely wealthy people losing millions perhaps billions. Not a shred of fact based evidence. Would continue to have to have people to buy into it as people come and go in power. The leading democraps and republicans would have to agree on something. Believing in Aliens is more logical and it and that speaks volumes. It would also have taken our elected officials murdering thousands of innocent international civilians.

The biggest reason for this myth is that people simply do not understand that burning steel at a high enough temperature will turn even the toughest steel into a liquid. That is how they make it and mold it. Well they didn't kill anyone some say. Well I personally knew victims and I know others that knew of other victims. So now because I disproved it beyond any reasonable doubt I obviously must also be involved. lol Or hmm maybe I'm an agent. Not hardly.You see I believe in some conspiracies. Like JFK to me it's obvious there are some serious questions about one lone madman shooter. That is a topic that you can intelligently debate. Could have been a small group of people. Who knows lots of directions Mob maybe. 9/11 did not need to happen for us to attack Iraq or Afghanistan. The president of the united states could have done that anyhow. There's no logic to it, or.. I mean wow.

I bet you the people that made all the crap on the internet supporting that it was some thing other than it was don't even believe it. Now that's a more believable theory. All it takes is editing a video or a picture. How much money is there to be made from getting the American People to distrust their government. No risk but a lot of rewards. lol
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reply posted on 21-9-2011 @ 04:25 AM by MichelJCardin
reply to post by John bull 1



Conspiracy fantasist? If nobody pays any attention to media; then there would not be media nor would there be conspiracies undetected.



reply posted on 17-11-2011 @ 02:33 PM by Gazrok
I'll only post one, but it's got many multiple parts, so here's the link to the directory of all the parts...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

It's my extensive research into the pros and cons of the Roswell case. I feel it's definitely one of my most time consuming and best research efforts to date. Fair warning though, you'll really go down the rabbit hole here, and you'll need a lot of available time to read through it all.
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