Originally posted by danwild6
I have two questions in regards to the future
of the European Union.
1. What is the future of europe i.e closer poltical union (United States of Europe) or looser trading partner ship.
2. Could the recent division actually lead to a split in europe, some nations
(France, Germany) seem to favor closer union while Britain and the Scandanavian countries favor a liberal trade partner ship.
- Actually you put 3 questions; your first was
Is the European Union Dead
- For which the answer is no.
As for the future? Well IMO the first thing is to rationally assess where we are and what has just happened.
For the anti-EU crowd they will eventually have to start to see and accept that these so-called 'constitution' votes prove beyond all doubt that the
type of EU they have been 'warning' everyone about for the last couple of decades is not and never was going to happen.
The dictating EU super-state is not on the cards and never actually was.
It could never have been because the people of Europe don't want one and never have wanted one.
These votes prove that.........and for as long as we remain free democratic countries that will always be so.
The idea that the EU could side-step this by secretly removing our democracy is just part of the anti-EU delusions.
On the 'other side of the street' the pro-EU people will have to see and accept that there has undoubtledly been a detachment between the people,
their national govs and the EU.
Whereas the EU was once seen as 'the future' it is now seen as somewhat old and outdated.
Issues such as the CAP where just over 40% of the EU budget goes on farming must be faced up to and changed to rebalance our efforts to demonstrate a
renewed relevance to more of the people within the EU.
I have no doubt that this will happen. The EU has it's faults and flaws (like all human endevours) but it's fundamental principles are so sound that
IMO it is bound to survive.
This is a shock along the way for some and a perfectly normal, but long overdue, moment of realignment for others.
Such is the dynamism of political and economic events.
As for European 'splits'?
Europe has always had a 'core' pushing particular agendas.
But then again that 'core' has varied depending upon the issue itself.
Now we are 25 the old idea of a 'Franco-German alliance' running the show is becoming less and less true (or possible).
In any event this is simply part of the ebb and flow of normal politics, right now the German chancellor is close to the French, he is likely to go
soon and be replaced with one closer to the British idea.
Similarly Chirac is to go in the not too distant future.
Things and the people involved - thankfully- change. It is the one certainty.
We shall have a period of reflection, hopefully one with informed comment and based upon the facts of the situation........as opposed to inaccurate
slogans like those that attempt to portay the EU as "corrupt" (especially when the annual auditors report levels of waste and corruption in the EU
as lower than in many of the sovereign nations states - people wishing to use this distortion usually point to the auditors refusal to 'sign off'
the accounts; this is simply to either ignore or fail to understand why they are doing this. It has nothing to do with "corruption" and everything
to do with the failure to implement certain accounting proceedures.....which is down to the ogv, not the EU).
......and as Bulldog 52 points out' he (like many of the British EU haters) would rather traitor the UK to mere US statehood as opposed to being a
decision making partner with full voting rights in cooperative free and democratic EU.
[edit on 19-6-2005 by sminkeypinkey]