Did anyone ever see this Poll? Wow!

This may provide additional credibility. This poll is from MSN. And it has 52,000 responses.





Do that image saturation on this one.


EDIT: LINK

[edit on 6-19-2005 by ShadowHasNoSource]

What are we waiting for? Let's impeach Bush. He obviously deserves it. You shouldn't be allowed to mislead your country into a war and let innocent lives die. Any other American President would of been on trial by now. Why is he different. Because he didn't sleep with a woman in the oval office? What happened to the Presidential position being one of integrity? Isn't suprising since most Americans have none anymore.

[I don’t think Bush had anything to do with the attacks on 911. I do think he used the attacks to further his own agenda as the “war on terror” is a convenient excuse to do whatever the hell he wants. God I hate him with a passion.

i heartily agree. I do think that the entire Bush admin. did it though. All of them but him were in on it. Or maybe he was, hes just too stupid to get it.Either way, he was a tool, a pawn, not a player.

That image of the poll is correct, not falsified, and those were the results of the poll. I know cause I was one of the people who voted in it. This is many months old, and was the subject of discussion over at letsroll911.org.

My personal belief is that the poll itself was somewhat skewed to begin with, because most of the exposure it got came from 911 sites. And therefore the percentage of "conspiracy theorists" taking part in the vote was very high. I can't be sure about it, but that is how it appears to me.

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'A coverup around 911' is an incredibly vague question, that could mean a whole lot of different things to different people.

It is a fact that FEMA lied about the toxicity of the dust from 911.
That's a coverup around 911,
so the fact that this vague question isn't 100% yes shows how many people are asleep at the switch.

Its a very bad and imprecise question.
Shows just how the nature of the questionaire can skew results.

You need clear, precise, unambiguous questions to try to get some kind of clear shapshot of where people's heads are at.
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Non-representitive of the whole = sexed up


Folks might want to learn to read the disclaimers attached to those "polls":

In addition, while MSNBC.com’s Live Votes are designed to allow only one vote per user, someone who wants to vote more than once could simply use another computer or another Internet account.

So, if one a college campus computer lab with 30 computers, guess what?

But MSNBC’s Live Votes are not intended to be a scientific sample of national opinion. Instead, they are part of the same interactive dialogue that takes place in our online chat sessions: a way to share your views on the news with MSNBC writers and editors and with your fellow users.

About our Live Votes and surveys

MSNBC is notorious anti-Bush, as is CNN....all of which have a viewership of like minded people, thus the results of the polls. Though they do profess that their 'live' online votings are valid and representitive...*cough*....just ask those at democraticunderground or the freepers at freerepublic which also are notorious for raiding online polls in mass.




seekerof

[edit on 19-6-2005 by Seekerof]

FEMA Interview mp3

MakeThemAccountable.com

Regarding the Dan Rather/Tom Kennedy audio clip which is purported to "prove" that FEMA knew about the WTC attacks before September 11th, I decided to do a bit of research into it myself. I originally went out to try and prove that the audio clip was doctored or otherwise a hoax, but instead came up with a completely reasonable explanation for everything.

The Urban Search and Rescue program is not a single unit, but a program made up of twenty-eight teams across the country (www.fema.gov...). According to the web site, the US&R "is a framework for structuring local emergency services personnel into integrated disaster response task forces." In other words, they are fire fighters and local emergency teams from various metropolitan areas that are specially trained to deal with large-scale disasters. In the case of a disaster, they are equipped to deploy, at very short notice, to any part of the country.

On September 11th, FEMA mobilized twelve US&R teams, eight to New York and four to the Pentagon (www.fema.gov...). All twenty-eight team were on alert.

Hmmmmm.........Naaaaaaaaa this does not purport that the government was directly involved in the attacks speaking somewhat sarcastically. However why on earth would FEMA S&R teams be going into areas that were attacked before they were attacked, how would they know they would be attacked....???

Therefore if they knew they were going to be attacked why did 'they' decide to play war games and ordered NORAD to stand down...??? Even though the planes had fully deactivated the transponders, ANY country on earth would have brought the planes down but apparantly most secure country on the planet managed to be attacked....???

Back on topic....

The poll is def. interesting. It is blatantly obvious that the US government was directly involved in the attacks on 9/11, WHY can you not see it!!!

Then again look at it this way........If the gov. was NOT involved in the attacks then who else has the power to order FEMA S&R teams to enter suposed attack sites..........................uh oh.....

I would love to see that poll about JFK though

[edit on 19/6/05 by Hunting Veritas]

Yeah true that's something you Bush loving, false Patriots have no answer for. Explain to me why NORAD stood down for the first time in 50 years on 9/11/01.

Originally posted by Memorialday1999
I do not think that Bush or our gov't had anything at all to do with the 911 attacks.

While the evidence in many areas suggests an indictable level of prior knowledge, let us assume that the Bush administration had "nothing to do with" the 911 attacks.

Why, then, did they also have nothing to do with preventing them?

Originally posted by Seekerof
MSNBC is notorious anti-Bush, as is CNN....

Why even attempt to hurl that one out there See....you know someone is going to catch it!?

There is no, zero, nada, nilch, nyet Main Stream Corporate Media entity that is anti-Bush. THe pinholes of disagreement & criticism that do pop through are from onsey twosey talking heads floating in the sea of compliance that is there 24 hour news cycle.
Who on CNN is anti-Bush!? Bill Hemmer & Soledad O'Brien in the AM? Lou Dobbs? Wolf "I'd do George W. in a HEARTBEAT?" Blitzer? Anderson Cooper? Paula Zahn? Arron Brown?
Out of the above, Dobbs & Brown are the only ones to have taken single issue topics & have been consistent in their critique of the Bush White House.
All others are sheeple trying to compete to catch up to the inflated demographics of Fox news.

KingLizard & DonttreadonMe:

I'm really suprised that both of you do not believe that Team Bush was complicit in 9/11. Forever and always, 9/11 MUST be viewed in the context of history; a history that brought us the Reichstag fire, the false sinking of the USS Maine by the US to start the Spanish American War, and more importantly, recently and in the USA - Operation Northwoods.
ON was designed by and sign off on by our very own Joint Chiefs of Staff - the military braintrust entrusted with protecting America. Options in this plan covered the murder of Hero Astronaut John Glenn, the sinking of US ships & the murder of their crews, the murder of Cuban refugees via sinking their boats, and attacks on US cities.
JFK suppossedly considered it's implementation as a justification for the attack of Cuba. Sanity did prevail & the plan was rejected.

The powers that be have always considered false cause motivators as viable tools to enable what they deem appropriate actions. They often have included the death of innocents & the destruction of property. The Project for a New American Century- PNAC authors were all alcolytes of their mentors at that time - fast tracking the Republican conduits in the halls of power as young men. They went from writing that manifesto, which called for a new Pearl Harbor level event as the precursor to implementing their ownership of the Middle East, to being in the EXACT chairs, holding the controls of our government which would enable them to carry it out.........leas than 18 months AFTER stating their desires!!!
Not the official letterhead of a Joint Chiefs of Staff documented being submitted to the President, but DAMN close & probably the same damn stock of paper!!!

Originally posted by MaskedAvatar

Originally posted by Memorialday1999
I do not think that Bush or our gov't had anything at all to do with the 911 attacks.

While the evidence in many areas suggests an indictable level of prior knowledge, let us assume that the Bush administration had "nothing to do with" the 911 attacks.

Why, then, did they also have nothing to do with preventing them?

VERY good point?

Well I guess thats why more than 50% of Americans believe there is some sort of a cover up.

In fact if so many do believe in such a redicuclous conspiracy then why isn't anything done...........Because someone else is running the show and NOT Georgy boy..........the evidence is piled on yet nothing, not even a blip from the people who let this idiot back in office....mind you the US didn't really have a choice it was either a Skull and bones member...........or...............another Skull and bones member.......hmmmm....

US Citizens I URGE you not to let the madness continue else you will end up with nothing but loss of freedom and security......................WAKE UP!

peace

You are posting a poll by CNN and you believe it to be true?

CNN is to the far left what World Nut Daily is to the far right.
Totally unreliable and skewed. CNN is run by anti-American
Eurocrats who want to turn America into Old Europe. ANY
'poll' by them is useless, except to create a fantasy that makes
socialists feel good.

Originally posted by FlyersFan

You are posting a poll by CNN and you believe it to be true?

CNN is to the far left what World Nut Daily is to the far right.
Totally unreliable and skewed. CNN is run by anti-American
Eurocrats who want to turn America into Old Europe. ANY
'poll' by them is useless, except to create a fantasy that makes
socialists feel good.

It doesn't matter where the poll come from......The FACT IS the government was involved. Case closed.

If the government weren't involved then why on earth did FEMA get to town the night before???????? Coincidence. Come on, there is no such thing as a coincidence - not with something this huge.

Why won't they tell us who benefitted from the put options? As they say, find out who benefitted and you'll know who's responsible.

The government certainly has benefitted from 9/11, wouldn't you say? 9/11...ah...the gift that keeps on giving. Its been Christmas ever since if you get my drift.


[edit on 20/6/05 by AlwaysLearning]

The fact that a country that spends millions to set up formal investigations on so many things refuses to set up a formal investigation into who pulled off 9/11 and why speaks volumes.

A video of Bin Laden praising the attacks and paper passports found in the rubble does not satisfy me.

Something is so not right here.

Originally posted by Belgarath
The fact that a country that spends millions to set up formal investigations on so many things refuses to set up a formal investigation into who pulled off 9/11 and why speaks volumes.

A video of Bin Laden praising the attacks and paper passports found in the rubble does not satisfy me.

Something is so not right here.

What about the uncanny coincidence that the "man responsible" for the attacks is not only a former contact for the CIA (afghan resistance to soviet days).
and happen to know shrub personally from the days when osamas daddy gave Shrub money for his first oil company (and many more investments since)

can anyone say "winning the lottery twice in one day"?

there is such thing as coincidence... then there is such thing as bold faced connection to 9-11

no question... Look at stats of probablility.... no one ever gets struck by lightning twice in one day (at least not our president)

so why would people beleive that there is no connection...?

the answer is the silent news media...

My dad had no clue that Osamas daddy had been Bushes first investor...
Now he has joined the ranks of the suspicious...

but the propaganda war had worked on him... he was firmly not going to beleive anything from farenfeit 9-11... no matter how well documented the info...

[edit on 20-6-2005 by LazarusTheLong]

lazarus, thats awsome you got your dad to open his mind a bit. congrats ive been trying the same with my family. slowly but surely, itll happen. anyways, i think many people have such a hard time with bush/911 connection because it is so outrageously evil - it comes off as tabloidish. not to mention, most people have already dug their heels in where they stand on this issue, nobody wants more propoganda.

i think there are more variables to the equation then we have found, but the basic math adds up: bush had prior knowlege. whether he MADE it happen, or LET it happen, is still up in the air. personally, i think he knew it was coming and let it happen, then took advantage of the situation, and still is.

for all we know, things could have gone sour between the bushes and binladens in regards to business, and when bush became prez. osama got P.Oed and lashed back. binladens little connection to the CIA has me questioning if he is really in control afterall. maybe osamas aggression is a result of the CIA playing a game with his head? some really advanced reverse phsychology?

the bush/binladen/CIA connection should wake up even the most blind sheeple.

It should, but the sad fact is it won't. There are many Patriots posting in this thread, asking questions that are ignored by the ignorant ones that are in denial.

Can anyone Guess how many Americans can get on the internet ?? Or much less turn a computer on .... My father all of this brothers and anyone older than him besides a hand full of people that I know can't operate a Computer they can't even turn one on much less .. operate it .

Originally posted by LazarusTheLong
My dad had no clue that Osamas daddy had been Bushes first investor...
Now he has joined the ranks of the suspicious...

Laz, maybe you should back him up a bit, though? As to how a family who gets the grandpappys prosecuted for violating the Trading with the Enemy provisions of our laws by pimping for the Nazis somehow gets 4 terms of govenorship, 1 VP & 2 Presidents in less than a 20 year period!? Sure as hell ain't statesmanship, education & civic mindeness!!