Boeing 757-200 crash into Pentagon. But where is the Jet?, page 3
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reply posted on 12-8-2003 @ 08:25 PM by Uninen
Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf
Mojo, you brain farting twinkie, i ddnt say ATS was stupid, i was referring to the idiot site that claims the pentagon was hit with a missile and no planes were used was beyond retardation. Do you know how to read, you vegetable? Even a 5 year old could have come to that conclusion.

You are proof that American's remedial education has been sadly neglected, sigh.

if I thought ATS was stupid, I wouldnt be on this site.


Lets remember.. 11.9.2001 I came home.. turned tv on and sat down on a chair.. soon came "Special-news" there had been a "accident" that one of the wtc had taken hit from a plane.. they showed live from NY 1 tower in flames.. and at this time called my friend.. telling me that Yanks are getting their azz kicked.. i told him that i am watching this.. as we talk over the phone (tv was this on..) we saw the 2. tower taking the hit on live tv-news.. then i told my friend that this isnt a "crash" but a an attack.. Then we finished te talking and i continued to watch this SHOW live..

Two important things that were said by Pentagon / White house during that day i remember..

1. They told that they had scrambled interceptors.. 2 F-16s to Chase the plane that would end up "crashing" on a field.. And they said that if nothing else works that they would shot it down..

2. When Pentagon was hit they said it had been a CAR BOMB..




Now.. these stories changed.. why? Those were the truht.. a american passenger jet shot down by USAF, to limit damage and a CAR BOMB on pentagon.. considering what had allready happened at WTC these things aint no big deal.. But it seems it is too much to White House to admit that it was a shot down to save more lives..

[Edited on 13-8-2003 by Uninen]


reply posted on 13-8-2003 @ 01:29 PM by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf
James, Mojo and Mask are right: look at the facts.

First of all, the first plane had been hijack confirmed for about 30 minutes or so before hitting. A hijacking alone is reason enough to scramble fighter jets, that standard FAA proceedure. Barring hijacking, the fact that the transponder signal was lost, and suspicious circumstances surrounded it, was enough to scramble hijackers. Loss of transponder signal longer than 5 minutes is an emergency by FAA rules. A plane without transponder is a mid air collision waiting to happen. Since the FAA has dispatched fighters 67 times in the year 2001 before the attacks, for everything from no transpoder to loss of communication to deviating from flight path. Flight 11 deviated totally from flight path, loss transponder, lost communication...all are triple reasons the FAA should have dispatched fighters, which they had done many times nefore for the same reasons. Flight 11 may not have been able to have been intercepted in time, but a jet would have arrived to see it crash int he world trade center, and intercept the seconf jet 15 minutes away.

No excuses, what was the FAA on that day? Lets say, ok, forget New york. No planes disptached. When the second plane hit, everyone knew it was no accident. Sop then, why did flight 77 hit the pentagon?

Has anyone paid attention? The pentagon, for one, has surface to air missles. None were used. Flight 77 was confirmed hijacked right when the first plane hit. No jets scrambled. It made a 180 degree turn, and radar readigs showed it heading right back toward washington dc. Nothing scrambled. two planes hit the WTC, both hijack confirmed. Nothing done. Flight 77 barrels towards DC. The nations capitol, where, Goerge bush, wasnt present, but the VP was. After two atatcks on US soil, a third plane hijack confirmed with no transponder, and last seen turning 180 toward washington dc. No ine in the capitol evacuated. No one warned. No jets scrambled. For 40 minutes it made its way back home. frantic calls freom the passengers telling the world they had been hijacked, even one, a prominent and well known figure: barbara Olsen. No planes yet. Finally, about 9:25 or so, ten minutes before the plane hit, they finally decoide to scramble a jet from langley in Virginia, 170 miles away, flying at half the speed it was capable of. Didnt get there till well after the plane struck. Why Langley? Andrews airforce base, home of airforce on, the PREZ jet, always has fighters on alert at all times (it is Air Force One, after all, do you think the prez plane and its home base is gonna have anything but a #ing armada on alert at all times? and Andrews is 15 minutes from DC. VERY close. Right across the bay from DC.). No fighters scrambled. Then after the plane hit, after the last plane was shot down......then suddenly fighters pop out from Andrews and everywhere.......and boom! Planes everywhere! but, too mlate, # already happened.

And you still think the gov had nuthin to do with it? LMAO!

Uni, Im glad the death of 3000 Americans amuses you so much. Coming from a denizen of a #ty worthless little country like Finalnd that has only been either the doorstop of the Russians, the whore of the Nazis, or the stompoing grounds for vikings, it is udnerstandable to enjoy the misfirtune of 3000 people in a country you so hate because simply, well, weve done a hell of alot more then you could ever imagine, lol. But, your intitled to your little triumphs, its all you have, now that your a bottom boy for the European Union, the only way you could ever hope to even be remebered in the world, Ill give you your little amusements, lol. other than the sauna, you pretty much have been a useless, unremarkable country in history, so I guess the little people have to have thier laugh. Ill let you have yours. Doesnt change anything. Youll always be dependant on someone for protection, food, whatever....another insignifgant blob of dirt in the big bad scary world.

NOW THATS FUNNY.



reply posted on 13-8-2003 @ 09:27 PM by uNBaLaNCeD
...the pilot of that plane hit right at the base of the building,maybe right at the base without even touching the grass (not an impossibility)..

...the base of the building is the foundation,the strongest part of the building,it would have caused the plane to disintegrate more completely from more abrupt deceleration forces..

...the deceleration forces were greater for the plane,the people were probably instant chunky goo..

...the plane was boogyin along about 250mph most of it probably went aways into the second ring at least..

...if the plane nearly totally disintegrated from such abrupt deceleration forces,and the people were reduced to goo on impact,and then the fuel ignited,and then the building collapsed on top of it...

The plane,the people,the building were crushed squished , burnt and smashed.I am sure the emergency crews got a good look at what little remained of the whole mess,and I am sure that if there was some footage of the carnage it would have been edited out,and I am sure that anything that was left of the plane was pretty much unrecognizable as such.

Ok you say,but.......

Ok,I say to myself ,if it happened,WHY did it happen?,why was it allowed to happen?,who allowed it to happen?,who could possibly gain?.

This war is too convenient,about the time people begin to wonder what happened yesterday,some other thing happens today that steals away their attention.But it makes no difference,you can vote and demonstrate and do whatever you want to try to change things,it makes s no difference.
-it is all meaningless-


reply posted on 13-8-2003 @ 09:59 PM by Uninen
Skadi_the_Evil_Elf FCK YOU. Everything that US has "invented" it has stolen from NAZIS after ww2.. even the lies of Mr.Bush sound just like something that Goebbels would write.. and another thing Mr.Bush borrowed from nazis.. A.Hitler himself.. Bigger the lie, more people will belive it is the truht..

Finland in another hand has invented by itself following "sh1t":

MOBILE PHONE.. Finnish invention.. first was build here.. and the last one will also..
www.nokia.com...

All modern Mortars and Field guns are copies of Finnish designs
www.patria.fi...

Linux..
www.linux.com...

AIV method..
www.nobel.se...

And so many other things that i really do have the time..

What does the US has.. and dont say the A-BOMB.. as it was and is GERMAN-JEW product.. allways has been.. and will be.. Without mobile phones US people would still be using smoke signals.. without our mortars and guns you would be throwing stones at Iraqis.. and without linux.. well we are stuck with this piece of sh1t windows..

unremarkable country in history, Finland? No.. you see we saved the mankind.. 1941.. Russia was collapsing and our German friends wanted us to storm the LENINGRAD.. and CUT THE MURMANSK RAIL + TAKE THE MURMANSK.. but we didnt.. IT WOULD HAVE BEEN EASY TO DO.. but our leaders know what the Nazi-Germany was about.. and decited that if they couldnt win war by themself.. that we arent going to do it for them.. if we had done what the Germans wanted us to do.. Operation Barbarossa would have been over before the winter 1941.. So be clad that you dont have to call me as "Mein Herr SS fuhrer.." we saved everybodys azz.

[Edited on 14-8-2003 by Uninen]


reply posted on 13-8-2003 @ 10:18 PM by Uninen
Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf
James, Mojo and Mask are right: look at the facts.

First of all, the first plane had been hijack confirmed for about 30 minutes or so before hitting. A hijacking alone is reason enough to scramble fighter jets, that standard FAA proceedure. Barring hijacking, the fact that the transponder signal was lost, and suspicious circumstances surrounded it, was enough to scramble hijackers. Loss of transponder signal longer than 5 minutes is an emergency by FAA rules. A plane without transponder is a mid air collision waiting to happen. Since the FAA has dispatched fighters 67 times in the year 2001 before the attacks, for everything from no transpoder to loss of communication to deviating from flight path. Flight 11 deviated totally from flight path, loss transponder, lost communication...all are triple reasons the FAA should have dispatched fighters, which they had done many times nefore for the same reasons. Flight 11 may not have been able to have been intercepted in time, but a jet would have arrived to see it crash int he world trade center, and intercept the seconf jet 15 minutes away.

No excuses, what was the FAA on that day? Lets say, ok, forget New york. No planes disptached. When the second plane hit, everyone knew it was no accident. Sop then, why did flight 77 hit the pentagon?

Has anyone paid attention? The pentagon, for one, has surface to air missles. None were used. Flight 77 was confirmed hijacked right when the first plane hit. No jets scrambled. It made a 180 degree turn, and radar readigs showed it heading right back toward washington dc. Nothing scrambled. two planes hit the WTC, both hijack confirmed. Nothing done. Flight 77 barrels towards DC. The nations capitol, where, Goerge bush, wasnt present, but the VP was. After two atatcks on US soil, a third plane hijack confirmed with no transponder, and last seen turning 180 toward washington dc. No ine in the capitol evacuated. No one warned. No jets scrambled. For 40 minutes it made its way back home. frantic calls freom the passengers telling the world they had been hijacked, even one, a prominent and well known figure: barbara Olsen. No planes yet. Finally, about 9:25 or so, ten minutes before the plane hit, they finally decoide to scramble a jet from langley in Virginia, 170 miles away, flying at half the speed it was capable of. Didnt get there till well after the plane struck. Why Langley? Andrews airforce base, home of airforce on, the PREZ jet, always has fighters on alert at all times (it is Air Force One, after all, do you think the prez plane and its home base is gonna have anything but a #ing armada on alert at all times? and Andrews is 15 minutes from DC. VERY close. Right across the bay from DC.). No fighters scrambled. Then after the plane hit, after the last plane was shot down......then suddenly fighters pop out from Andrews and everywhere.......and boom! Planes everywhere! but, too mlate, # already happened.

And you still think the gov had nuthin to do with it? LMAO!

Uni, Im glad the death of 3000 Americans amuses you so much. Coming from a denizen of a #ty worthless little country like Finalnd that has only been either the doorstop of the Russians, the whore of the Nazis, or the stompoing grounds for vikings, it is udnerstandable to enjoy the misfirtune of 3000 people in a country you so hate because simply, well, weve done a hell of alot more then you could ever imagine, lol. But, your intitled to your little triumphs, its all you have, now that your a bottom boy for the European Union, the only way you could ever hope to even be remebered in the world, Ill give you your little amusements, lol. other than the sauna, you pretty much have been a useless, unremarkable country in history, so I guess the little people have to have thier laugh. Ill let you have yours. Doesnt change anything. Youll always be dependant on someone for protection, food, whatever....another insignifgant blob of dirt in the big bad scary world.

NOW THATS FUNNY.


THIS is the abuse.. as you read this hole tread you will see that i havent been amused by 3000 deaths.. but Skadi thinks i have been.. and is insulting me.. that much for abuse..
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