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Originally posted by infinite
The plane hit the bottom the the pentagon. Now there should be an impact marks on the ground. There SHOULD be plane wrecked on the lawn, but there isn't.Also what happend to the bodies of the passengers?? are we meant to believe that all the bodies turned into dust?? I don't think so somehow
What happened to the black box? thats the key thing here, if there is a black box, then there was a plane. The black box is the only part of the plane which never gets damaged.
So find the black box and you find out what happened.
Originally posted by Lukefj
I think the difference in skepticism between the WTC crashes and the Pentagon crash is in the video, first there are frames missing from the Pentagon video...why? Second, you clearly see the planes crash into the WTC...you see nothing of the sort in the Pentagon video.
I don't believe everythign people say they see. People see a lot of things they're told to. Don't dismiss it because your friend's wife said she heard the rumble of a plane (pretty ambiguous statement). I'm not dismissing anythign until I see it.
Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf
Mojo, you brain farting twinkie, i ddnt say ATS was stupid, i was referring to the idiot site that claims the pentagon was hit with a missile and no planes were used was beyond retardation. Do you know how to read, you vegetable? Even a 5 year old could have come to that conclusion.
You are proof that American's remedial education has been sadly neglected, sigh.
if I thought ATS was stupid, I wouldnt be on this site.
Originally posted by James the Lesser
Reason no planes scrambled after first plane hit WTC?? We didn't know it was an attack. We thought it was an accident. It wasn't until the second one hit that we knew we were under attack.
Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf
James, Mojo and Mask are right: look at the facts.
First of all, the first plane had been hijack confirmed for about 30 minutes or so before hitting. A hijacking alone is reason enough to scramble fighter jets, that standard FAA proceedure. Barring hijacking, the fact that the transponder signal was lost, and suspicious circumstances surrounded it, was enough to scramble hijackers. Loss of transponder signal longer than 5 minutes is an emergency by FAA rules. A plane without transponder is a mid air collision waiting to happen. Since the FAA has dispatched fighters 67 times in the year 2001 before the attacks, for everything from no transpoder to loss of communication to deviating from flight path. Flight 11 deviated totally from flight path, loss transponder, lost communication...all are triple reasons the FAA should have dispatched fighters, which they had done many times nefore for the same reasons. Flight 11 may not have been able to have been intercepted in time, but a jet would have arrived to see it crash int he world trade center, and intercept the seconf jet 15 minutes away.
No excuses, what was the FAA on that day? Lets say, ok, forget New york. No planes disptached. When the second plane hit, everyone knew it was no accident. Sop then, why did flight 77 hit the pentagon?
Has anyone paid attention? The pentagon, for one, has surface to air missles. None were used. Flight 77 was confirmed hijacked right when the first plane hit. No jets scrambled. It made a 180 degree turn, and radar readigs showed it heading right back toward washington dc. Nothing scrambled. two planes hit the WTC, both hijack confirmed. Nothing done. Flight 77 barrels towards DC. The nations capitol, where, Goerge bush, wasnt present, but the VP was. After two atatcks on US soil, a third plane hijack confirmed with no transponder, and last seen turning 180 toward washington dc. No ine in the capitol evacuated. No one warned. No jets scrambled. For 40 minutes it made its way back home. frantic calls freom the passengers telling the world they had been hijacked, even one, a prominent and well known figure: barbara Olsen. No planes yet. Finally, about 9:25 or so, ten minutes before the plane hit, they finally decoide to scramble a jet from langley in Virginia, 170 miles away, flying at half the speed it was capable of. Didnt get there till well after the plane struck. Why Langley? Andrews airforce base, home of airforce on, the PREZ jet, always has fighters on alert at all times (it is Air Force One, after all, do you think the prez plane and its home base is gonna have anything but a #ing armada on alert at all times? and Andrews is 15 minutes from DC. VERY close. Right across the bay from DC.). No fighters scrambled. Then after the plane hit, after the last plane was shot down......then suddenly fighters pop out from Andrews and everywhere.......and boom! Planes everywhere! but, too mlate, # already happened.
And you still think the gov had nuthin to do with it? LMAO!
Uni, Im glad the death of 3000 Americans amuses you so much. Coming from a denizen of a #ty worthless little country like Finalnd that has only been either the doorstop of the Russians, the whore of the Nazis, or the stompoing grounds for vikings, it is udnerstandable to enjoy the misfirtune of 3000 people in a country you so hate because simply, well, weve done a hell of alot more then you could ever imagine, lol. But, your intitled to your little triumphs, its all you have, now that your a bottom boy for the European Union, the only way you could ever hope to even be remebered in the world, Ill give you your little amusements, lol. other than the sauna, you pretty much have been a useless, unremarkable country in history, so I guess the little people have to have thier laugh. Ill let you have yours. Doesnt change anything. Youll always be dependant on someone for protection, food, whatever....another insignifgant blob of dirt in the big bad scary world.
NOW THATS FUNNY.