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Remote Influencing... can it be done

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posted on Jun, 18 2005 @ 03:32 AM
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In the area of Remote Viewing is another ability called Remote Influencing. This can be anything from influencing someone to come around to your way of thinking or having them perform a task that they did not know they were doing. This was used during the cold war by the military RV'ers and has been documented in various books on this subject.(i think great sales people do this without knowing what it is or how it works for them.)

Imo most people can RV with just a little practice and that this ability is very common .But what i was wondering has anyone out there influenced someone in one way or another knowingly or unknowingly when focusing on them. It may be as simple as wishing they would see things your way or having someone do an about face and capitulate on a highly charged issue. Let me know what your opinion is about this.

Parker



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posted on Jun, 18 2005 @ 03:56 AM
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Yes it is possible and has been done on many occasions. I would not recommend people openly talk about such stuff, even if you lie you could get into trouble possibly commit suicide.



posted on Jun, 18 2005 @ 04:01 AM
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Originally posted by NinjaCodeMonkey
Yes it is possible and has been done on many occasions. I would not recommend people openly talk about such stuff, even if you lie you could get into trouble possibly commit suicide.


I think thats a little over board dont you...."commit suicide" come on.
This is a very valid question about an interesting aspect of natural and PSI ability, and i dont see how or why this should not be discussed.


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posted on Jun, 18 2005 @ 10:07 PM
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Here is a little mind game I used to play on my GF.
I would always wake up before her and while she was still asleep I would concentrate on the room becoming very cold or very hot. If I concentrated on it being hot she would throw all the covers off. If I thought cold, she would shiver and draw all the covers around tightly. I don't think this is remote influencing. Lovers seem to establish bonds that transend time, space and physics as we currently understand them. Try it.



posted on Jun, 19 2005 @ 01:12 AM
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be extremely careful. if using such influence for personal gain, you'll invoke the source the skill comes from.

ensure your intentions are out of purity and for the benifit of the one you are trying to aid. don't test it out with little things either, too much.

once you are aware you have such a gift, use it sparingly and for only good intentions towards the reciever.

a helpful tip, think of the person when they are in REM sleep and just offer input, they do have a say so, just not on a conscious level. so if you intend on harming them, they may inadvertently lash out at you without even knowing why. (distance & time are irrelivent if you are in a mindstate of loving fully truthing loving truthing fully).

guard your gifts as though you have nothing to loose. if you fear loosing them, fear takes them from you. if you would hate to loose them, hate takes them from you.



posted on Jun, 19 2005 @ 04:48 PM
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Oh come on........

I highly doubt anyone can change the physical temperature of a room with their BRAIN.

There is no way to do these things unless you believe that humans can use a special field that exists outside the realm of science.
And considering no one can prove anything they say, and also since science has no proof of it either, Im calling a BS on Whaaa

Any of you are welcomed to try and remotely get me, but I would put my college fund on you being unable to.



posted on Jun, 19 2005 @ 06:53 PM
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Swami's have been documented has going so far as being able to make 1 side of their hand warm and the other side of the hand cold.



posted on Jun, 19 2005 @ 07:57 PM
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This is getting a bit over the top in terms of possibility.....changing the excitement of atoms with your non-existant mind waves?

Hmmm.....Sounds like *with a french accent* Garbage.



posted on Jun, 19 2005 @ 08:32 PM
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Don't you remote influence someone every time you talk over the telephone or write a letter to someone?



posted on Jun, 19 2005 @ 08:56 PM
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Remote Influencing.
The way you describe it sounds like you are interfering with someone's free will.

I think that is a bad practice. I think it is wrong to try and alter another person without their permission.



posted on Jun, 19 2005 @ 09:01 PM
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Originally posted by Raideur
Oh come on........

I highly doubt anyone can change the physical temperature of a room with their BRAIN.

There is no way to do these things unless you believe that humans can use a special field that exists outside the realm of science.
And considering no one can prove anything they say, and also since science has no proof of it either, Im calling a BS on Whaaa

Any of you are welcomed to try and remotely get me, but I would put my college fund on you being unable to.


I never said I changed the room temp. I said I concentrated on it being hot or cold and my GF responded to my thoughts. I don't expect you to belive this either. But my GF verified that she actually felt something from my suggestions. This is a form of hypnotism; not remote influencing.

If you can't understand post any better than you have demonstrated; I hope your college fund is huge!!



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[edit on 19-6-2005 by whaaa]



posted on Jun, 19 2005 @ 09:07 PM
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Originally posted by DontTreadOnMe
Remote Influencing.
The way you describe it sounds like you are interfering with someone's free will.

I think that is a bad practice. I think it is wrong to try and alter another person without their permission.



You took the words right outta my mouth.

Bad, bad, and bad to do.

Raideur,

The part where he made her sweat or shiver I believe is thought transfer with his lover and not with the room. It may be possible that he made her think it was warm or cold.

I can tell you some things that I have done through thought with my lover but it would not be appropiate in this forum, but I believe it's possible to have a very strong thought transfer bond when you are intimate with someone you love and can make them do things exactly the way you want them too just by thought.


Whaaa,

You beat me to it.

[edit on 19-6-2005 by Lanotom]



posted on Jun, 19 2005 @ 09:28 PM
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So you are telling me that you and your mate have developed a telepathic bond that defies all science and this allows you to remotely influence each other in a manner that cannot be detected, measured, or proven.

How do I know your not just lying? Well......lets assume you aren't.....

This means that people can send virtually invisible signals to each other. This is totally outside normal logic and probably doesnt occur in most relationships.

And now......Is there any proof, other than you and your mate's testimony?
So, either you and your mate are breaking the laws of physics in your bedroom, or your lying? Right?



posted on Jun, 19 2005 @ 09:33 PM
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Lanotom

Thanks for explaining for me what I apparently couldn't.

It is extroidanary the way the mind can influence lovers.

My GF could influence me in astonishing physical ways with nothing more than a coy smile or a squint of an eye. Most of the time even those overt measures weren't needed. The only thing it could have been was Remote Influencing. Thus I must conclude PSI exists. wink wink

PEACE

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posted on Jun, 19 2005 @ 09:54 PM
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.....Oh come on..

Now you concede it is a visual cue?

Good That puts an end to this once and for all.



posted on Jun, 19 2005 @ 09:57 PM
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Originally posted by Raideur
So you are telling me that you and your mate have developed a telepathic bond that defies all science and this allows you to remotely influence each other in a manner that cannot be detected, measured, or proven.

How do I know your not just lying? Well......lets assume you aren't.....

This means that people can send virtually invisible signals to each other. This is totally outside normal logic and probably doesnt occur in most relationships.

And now......Is there any proof, other than you and your mate's testimony?


We don't need no stinking proof. Maybe if you can put down your cynacism and skeptism and your stuffy scientific arrogance; someday maybe you will
be able to experience intimacy with another person that trancends time, space and everything nowable in this vast, mysterious, wonderful universe. I'm praying you can. It's called LOVE. Is their room in your Physics for that. I hope so!! I can tell you one thing: Lonelyness is HELL!!
I have experienced that hell. May your stay in hell be brief. Peace my brother!!

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posted on Jun, 19 2005 @ 10:02 PM
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My words exactly...

Wait a second... THOSE ARE MY WORDS!

Well Im glad we've come to a logical conclusion.



posted on Jun, 19 2005 @ 10:21 PM
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Mr. Raideur

Obviously i'm not as computer savy as you!

But my words: "May your stay in hell be brief" were sincerely meant.

I hope you can find peace, compassion, and love in your world.

We "wingnuts" need the debunkers and skeptics, but when the criticism becomes mean spirited as yours frequently does. It's not clever or cute and really dosen't change anyones fundmental view of the cosmos.

And I mean this

Peace my Brother

[edit on 19-6-2005 by whaaa]



posted on Jun, 19 2005 @ 10:22 PM
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Originally posted by Raideur
So you are telling me that you and your mate have developed a telepathic bond that defies all science and this allows you to remotely influence each other in a manner that cannot be detected, measured, or proven.



Raideur,

I don't know you so I don't know if you have a tight relationship with a special person or even if you've ever had.


What I am trying to say is when I am intimate with my lover we have a very strong mind relationship that neither one of us can explain but one of which we have discussed many times.

It's hard to explain in this forum but I am sure that her and I are not the only ones who have this type of relationship at the time of intimacy.

The easiest way to explain it would be like a form of thought transfer for certain activities.


I have nothing to gain by telling you this so there would be no reason for me to lie.



posted on Jun, 20 2005 @ 09:35 AM
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You're all gonna gasp when I said this but,

Even Love is just a evolutionary emotion designed to force us to mate and produce offspring and thus survive. Why would it be anything else? It serves its biological purpose and nothing more.

I dont see how a simple emotion in our brains for a very obvious purpose is able to create something extraordinary like telepathy. It cannot happen, and moreso, wouldn't happen because it jsut makes far too little sense!

I argue and post here simply to try and enlighten some people of that obvious rational truths that are blatantly understandable, yet people refuse them.

Even if the entire world were to tell me that love is more important than my rational thoughts, I would refuse such an assumption because it is not true.



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