1966 Yugoslavian Federation Alien Autopsy? Anyone?

Ok you sucked me in, and I swore I was not going to look at any more corpses for a while

These skulls are not the result of headbinding in my opinion, but I think they're what headbinding cultures were trying to emulate.

I think you are right on the money there, good thought.


We have no reason to believe that these are all the photos, in fact it would seem to me the reverse is almost certainly true. So the lack of measurements and other technical details are not much of a factor to me.

And if you knew they were real, would you really care about proving it? Ok, we would, but we have taken up this topic for study. The average person, again if they knew the pics were real, would tend to think that even one of them would be enough for most people. In today's climate that is not the case but I think we should judge them from 2 different angles (1) modern hoax intended to look old and (2) authentic but without thought given to convincing anyone.


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To me the corpse looks like its been in a fire, I've seen bodies when i was in the Balkans in the Army that looked similar to this. Except this particular body doesn't seem to have that curled up look that the bodies i saw had from the heat. This may sound a bit sick but does anyone know if intense heat could elongate the skull like that?

Also looking at the guy on the left he has what looks like a paper type suit on, gathered at the wrists. You know the the ones with the hoods that the police use to put suspects in to preserve evidence on the body.
I have done a search on the net but i cant find when these things came into common usage. Anyone hazard a guess when the disposable suits became common? if it was after the date given for the photo then id be pretty confident in saying it was a hoax.

i know something about this story......

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yes? and can you tell us the story?

this story was BIGGG about 1 year or so in Serbia (former Yugoslavia), pictures are said to be REAL as they come from MILITARY source.

So, pics are 100% original, doctors are 100% real, but...


it was rumoured here that this was much later than 1966, well about 1974



www.ufocasebook.com/bestufopictures3.html



and there is an actual pic of ufo, and it is said that this 2 events were conected


o, and on the alleged alien it was said that his skin was of redish dark color

yes


well this story was really big in Srbia 1 year ag
the photos are checked and they are 100% REAl, cause they come from MILITARY source from former Yugoslav army - JNA

also, the doctors were in the JNA at that time

however, it cant be proved that those are that doctors in pics

i very well know how would Yugoslav doctor from that time look time, i say this stoty is TRUE, because of some other elements of the story which do really check up - places, people, politics...at that time, Yugoslavia was socialist and INFO LIKE THIS WOULD NEVER COME TO MEDIA AT THAT TIME.

Doctors who are mentioned in the story are fictitious and no one could find them in the phonebook, not even those who had access to military directories. Their names are variations of Italian family names from the author, custom that sounds like they are from Jugoslavian region.

Author is 42 years old Andrea Zoboli and he is a member of sceptical group CICAP. Whole case was a test to see can he make a fake obduction like an obduction of Ray Santili.

Ray Santili video:
www.youtube.com...://cryingplanet.blog.hr/&feature=player_embedded

Besides the famous photographs there is a film that supposedly can be found on Youtube-in, but I can`t find it.
So-called pathologists doing obduction were Andrea and his family.

Part of interview with Andrea Zoboli:
13 Dec 2008

GM = Giuliano Marinkovic
AZ = Andrea Zoboli


GM: Have you ever worked in the film industry? And do you have experience with special effects?

AZ: Yes. When I was 18 years old I had a chance to visit the scene in the film "Demon II." I contacted the man for special effects Sergio Stivalettija. He told me that I can come to Rome. I spent several days there and I had a chance to see film production and special effects. But after that I didn`t continued in that direction.

GM: When you for the first time got an idea to create artificial alien creature? Were you at that time aware of false movie Raya Santillija about alien autopsy? Was that a kind of inspiration for you?

AZ: Yes. In 1999 CICAP spent competition in which sought a reconstruction of paranormal phenomenons. I tried with the alien autopsy. I was interested to much more than the rigging attempts photos of spirits and similar phenomena. That obviously inspired me. When I saw the movie of Santilli, it was clear to me that the film is faked. There were two suspected factors. You can not see the pathologists` face. Extraterrestrial corpse was too rigid and stiff.

GM: What were the techniques in creating the autopsy? How many people were involved? How long it all lasted and how much the entire project cost?

AZ: Techniques encourage the era of special effects when computers and CGI (computer generated images) were not used yet. So we talk about using latex and mold. I made the alien corpse for the month. Each section I made of clay - head, arms and torso. All of this I have indicated in the plaster, and I fulfilled that model latex. Shell I made of polyurethane. I filled the body with the innards of animals. You can imagine what it is the smell was, but it was worth it. The whole project cost about 200 euros in today's values. Helped me a wife, son-in-law, sister and nephew on the scene. All we recorded in a single day in the my friend`s studio .

GM: Otočec is mentioned place od UFO crash.. Did you really mean to place Otočec in Slovenia or have simply devised a name? Why did you choose the former Yugoslavia as the location of accident and the autopsy? Who came up the names of people who were involved in this false incident?

AZ: I think that this is a real place. My son-in-law has traveled a lot and seen a lot of countries. That's why I think that is real place. He chose Yugoslavia as a place UFO accident. In America, was the date Santilli. We have chosen Yugoslavia because it represents something strange and intangible. The names are created by our real names that are slightly modified to sound Yugoslav.

GM: A story definitely had an impact here so that it was a successful experiment. However, I think that the researchers could conclude that the story has no useful trace and data can be verified. It is obvious that was an anonymous article from the Internet. However, in certain parts of Paranormal community, people even today discussing this.

AZ: Past 10 years than that. I`m proud myself in such a success.


Thanks to Giuliano Marinkovic

[edit on 25/12/08 by Ufogovernment]