I just finished read the book by Manly P. Hall. It seems to give a accurate picture of Freemasonry. It has a very peotic feeling to it.

If this book is the true thing, it would back my previous beliefs on Freemasonry. That Freemasonry is revolved around a lot, not all of Eygptian religion from biblical times. Freemasonry in princable has attempted to take all the good things of all the worlds religions and put it into there system.

It gives a indepth view into the differnt degrees and explains the symbolism behind the rutuals. While a small bit of Christianty is mentioned in this book. I still hold to the belief that it is anti-Christian.

Here are a few verses in the bible that prove what I'm saying:

"Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved." (Acts 4:12)
"Again, you have heard that it was said to the people long ago, `Do not break your oath, but keep the oaths you have made to the Lord.' But I tell you, Do not swear at all: either by heaven, for it is God's throne; or by the earth, for it is his footstool; or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the Great King. And do not swear by your head, for you cannot make even one hair white or black. Simply let your `Yes' be `Yes,' and your `No,' `No'; anything beyond this comes from the evil one. ( Matt. 5:33 -37 )
"There is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed, or hidden that will not be made known. What you have said in the dark will be heard in the daylight, and what you have whispered in the ear in the inner rooms will be proclaimed from the roofs. "I tell you, my friends, do not be afraid of those who kill the body and after that can do no more. But I will show you whom you should fear: Fear him who, after the killing of the body, has power to throw you into hell. Yes, I tell you, fear him." (Luke 12:2-5 )

cool very interesting, i might buy the book

Other books in a similar vein say that all religions are derived from Masonry. Masonry is allegedly the closest thing to the Ancient Wisdom, and all religions are subsets of the Ancient Wisdom.

Since Christianity claims to be the One True Religion, claims that it is a subset of another older religion are incompatible with Christianity.

Your partially right it came from the Jews, where do you think we got the old testimone?

I would disagree with that idea. Since Freemasonry was allegedly the closest thing to Ancient Wisdom, there for we see the simularites. But Freemasonry & Christianity have little to do with eachother. In principle & in scripture they are uniquely alien to eachother.

i believe freemasonry and its virtues and tenets are basis for the new religion which is not such but in essence spirituality. god bless america.

I've been there often. Seems to have some good some bad material. But that's just my opinion of course. Some interesting ideas on the site. The one on how Washigton DC is filled with occultic and Freemasonry symbols. I have to admitt, it's kinda hard not see the star and the mason's symbol from Sat photo's. I'd like to do more research into the idea.

Thanks for the site, I'd diffently recommend the site also.

I know of a book entitled the Book of the knowledge of good and evil-The Keys of Enoch by JJ hurtak. It is white with gold trim, $100.00 to buy, your name is registered if you buy it and it has the tetragrammaton on the cover. It basically talks about the Elohim masters, Metatron, the star coordinates and systems of (good and bad) masters and covers creationism as a propagation of universal collective conscience. It is not directly affiliated with Masonic lore and such but one might find it interesting as a start.
It is about the keys that were supposedly found in 7 vaults under the site of excavation during the construction of Soloman's temple.
It also supposedly created the first 3 master masons: King Hiram,
King Soloman and Hiram Abif. Ironic that 7 vaults (Rockefeller vaults-designed by HP Lovecraft that were just discovered) have just been found with a body in each, a triangular book and an original copy of the bible in ancient Hebrew.

I think different grand lodges and different countries may differ. In Sweden for example the freemasons is founded on christian belief.

There are 9 keys. That is all in this....place.

All disciples of the lizards.

Originally posted by THENEO
All disciples of the lizards.

Why deny the lizards their role as our teachers in physicality. One does not need be a disciple to learn. Simply observe and many doors will open. Knowledge protects no matter where it comes from.

[Edited on 24-9-2003 by uIVIa]

Originally posted by Magnus
I think different grand lodges and different countries may differ. In Sweden for example the freemasons is founded on christian belief.

It's the same here in the US, however, most of the higher up echelon of many Christian organizations are Luciferians.
ex. Knights Templar, Hospitallers, Freemasons, Jesuits, and most of the other orders...

- Tass

Does anyone have specific information about these lost keys of Solomons temple. Are they ancient principals or manuscripts, relics, people, or simply actual keys. Can somone enlighten me further in this legend because it seems that everything from the Ark of the Covenant, to the Philosphers Stone, the holy grail, masons, and templars all revolve around or are involved with Solomons temple, perhaps these keys will shine light on some other legends.

The keys in question are keys to understanding.

The lessons of Freemasonry are taught in symbols and allegory. They don't just say what's on their mind.

By doing this, they can teach people at one level that a certain symbol means THIS; those at a higher level learn the same symbol means THAT.

The Temple, as briefly as it can be stated. Three things.
First:
In 1118 AD, Eight Catholic holy men, title ( monk, priest friar, etc ) unknown, order or orders unknown, approached two French noblemen: Godfroi de Boulliogne ( spellings vary depending on translator ) and Hugues De Payens. The cover story given is that these two and seven other French noblemen went to Palestine to guard travellers on the road to Palestine.

They took a year to get there. When they arrived, they approached King Baldwin, a Swiss whose actual duties were more like a mayor or city manager of Jerusalem. They asked for permission to camp at the former stables of Solomon, and for the right to dig into the stables.

Permission granted, excavation began. Took them seven years to dig to the vault in question. They dug down - they knew in advance how far - and started digging horizontally through a hallway. When they found a door, they would dig just enough to clearly mark the doorway - 2 or 3 inches - then proceeded down the hall until they met the right intersecting passage.

Hooked a left, dug further, until they got to the room in question. Which they dug to the bare walls, taking whatever they found in there.

Thanked Baldwin for his generosity, asked him to hold their camp, as they would be back, and went back to France. Gave the unknown holy men the prize they dug up. Were thanked profusely for their efforts, and were eventually granted permission to create an order of knights, commonly called the Knights Templar.

A lifetime of study can be spent trying to understand the Knights Templar. The more you learn, the less you know. There seems to be an ongoing disinformation campaign in action.

What they brought back is the secret of Freemasonry. What is known is that C.W. "Lend a hand" Leadbeater has mentioned the contents of the vault in some of his books. Part of the haul was a document containing the secret name of God. In theory, if you can pronounce His name, you can summon Him. Which sounds bogus to me, if He can be summoned, He is not all-powerful, therefore, He is not God. But I digress.

Second: The Temple is the one architectural design in the world specified by God. Ergo, a sacred design. Ergo, worthy of study.

Third: The Temple is to be rebuilt in the hearts of men. A virtual rather than physical temple.

Originally posted by Researcher
Part of the haul was a document containing the secret name of God. In theory, if you can pronounce His name, you can summon Him. Which sounds bogus to me, if He can be summoned, He is not all-powerful, therefore, He is not God. But I digress.

It cAn't be toO secret anyMore.
After all the internet is full of interesting information.

I doubt it was ever meant to be secret. The only reason it's secret is because there are many selfish people that want a leg up on others. It's the 8th grader picking on the 5th grader mentality. They are too scared to even the playing field.

I doubt you are a member of any secret society.
If so, you would probably know why members do not tell of the secrets.

Why are there secrets?
Many reasons but one is that members and members who upgrade get to experiance or learn something. Something that will be a totally new experiance for them. They would not get that experiance if the whole world allready new would they?