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Its All A Coverup For The Airforce

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posted on Jun, 17 2005 @ 10:23 PM
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ok, now im not sure if this has been discussed before- if it has, well, the thread can be locked.

But. Here goes. All of the UFO sightings, which always happen to occur over airbases, are just lucky people witnessing Advanced Planes and such being developed by the USAF. the government is 12 years ahead of the rest of us, and we prob. cant even imagine the technology locked away at places like Area 51 and other places.

the government loves when we talk about aliens and crap because all it does is help them cover up thier super secret new toys.

besides, we have tens of millions if not billions of dollars searching for E.T life-its called NASA, among other private research centers, which would have found alien life if it existed or was on earth.

so relax people, and instead of trying to meet the aliens, lets try and come up with what that stuff the government has really is..

Mod Edit: Just fixed caps titles.
And removed siren.

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posted on Jun, 17 2005 @ 10:40 PM
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I guess for some it would be nice if life were that simple. Most consider the real study of UFOs to go as far back as we have history. There are cave paintings of UFOs my friend, think those were USAF too?

I will give you credit for bravery, to make a statement like you did, takes some guts.

Perhaps a little study might change your mind, since you seem to have a fairly high opinion of the military you might want to start with all the WWII reports of Foo Fighters.

Follow that up with a little event called The Battle of LA.


A.T
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posted on Jun, 17 2005 @ 10:48 PM
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Have you ever seen a cave painting with a drawing of an alien?

IE the ole trademark "grey" ?

Didnt think so.



posted on Jun, 17 2005 @ 11:00 PM
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I have seen a number of pictures which could be of those beings. Along with beings are any number of craft and objects in the sky.

Of course such images must be sifted, we know what an eclipse is now, so images that are probably that are removed from consideration. At the end of that sort of search you are left with things that are unique.

Perception is highly subjective, and so tied to personality and culture that we cannot be certain what was being expressed.


A.T
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posted on Jun, 17 2005 @ 11:04 PM
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Originally posted by Dulcimer
Have you ever seen a cave painting with a drawing of an alien?

IE the ole trademark "grey" ?

Didnt think so.


Grey's are our imagination, they were not created until much later.



posted on Jun, 17 2005 @ 11:35 PM
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imAMERICAN

You are right NASA has looked for ETs. and they have found them. But the Stanford Research Inst. told them not to release the information because the American people couldn't stand the shock of disclosure. I think SRI is correct too. I know I wouldn't go to work. I'd sit by the TV until they told me WTF is going on. Wouldn't you? I can imagine a senario where some folks would be running around in the streets with pitchforks and torches looking for the little guys. Mob rule would be the order of the day. Damn it would be fun.

Edgar Mitchell the astronaut believes in ET and UFOs. I think he was in the Air Force. You would think that going to space might give him some credibility. Just a thought.

yeah you're right about the gov./military having advanced technoloy. My reasearch buddies tell me that the advancement is more like 50yrs not l2. Guess where they got that technology.

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posted on Jun, 18 2005 @ 04:00 AM
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There are masses of UFO reports that were reported even before we conquered the skies.

Do some research before you make such statements.



posted on Jun, 18 2005 @ 04:33 AM
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Originally posted by Dulcimer
Have you ever seen a cave painting with a drawing of an alien?

IE the ole trademark "grey" ?

Didnt think so.


Why yes, yes I have. Ive got a whole folder full of them and when I upload them Ill show everyone.

EDIT- Imageshack dosnt work so ill have to find some other way of posting them, any got any ideas?

EDIT2- Stuff what I just said, I worked it out at last.

files.abovetopsecret.com...

files.abovetopsecret.com...

Those are the two most 'grey' like Ive got but I have alot of ancient UFO paintings and stuff so If anyone wants to see them just say and Ill post them.



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posted on Jun, 18 2005 @ 04:57 AM
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Anybody interested in UFO's reported hundreds of years ago.

www.ufoartwork.com



posted on Jun, 18 2005 @ 05:29 AM
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But. Here goes. All of the UFO sightings, which always happen to occur over airbases, are just lucky people witnessing Advanced Planes and such being developed by the USAF. the government is 12 years ahead of the rest of us, and we prob. cant even imagine the technology locked away at places like Area 51 and other places.


REALLY????

1. See thepostman's link...
2. Problem is, even the modern UFO era began prior to the inception of the USAF.
3. The objects seen, photographed, video taped, etc. exhibit qualities WAY beyond 12 years (and the military is usually about 20 years ahead). Still, if we had this back in the 40's, don't you think it would be production by now? Yes, of course it would.
4. So you believe the USAF tests such planes all over the world, as the sightings are worldwide?

Your theory may comfort you, but it doesn't fit the evidence... No doubt many sightings are misidentifications, but there are plenty of cases that simply defy this.



posted on Jun, 18 2005 @ 08:43 AM
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There are numerous reports of UFOs not near to air bases. Many out at sea. I agree, not all are ET craft and I agree that there is a chance that my beliefs on the subject are wrong but I know that not all UFO sightings occur in the vicinity of military bases.

And that doesn't explain the abductions or other things that have been attributed to a visiting alien race.



posted on Jun, 18 2005 @ 04:50 PM
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Valid UFO sightings have been around long before the USAF, or anybody's AF, for that matter. However, I do believe that the AF has some very hi-tech experimental aircraft that have been mistaken for UFO's. I often wonder about the sightings of V-shaped UFO's that hover around and get lots of reports. These could be experimental aircraft.



posted on Jun, 19 2005 @ 04:11 PM
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I think SRI is correct too. I know I wouldn't go to work. I'd sit by the TV until they told me WTF is going on. Wouldn't you?[/qoute]

No. I'd go to work and stay glued to the internet and CNN all day so I'd get paid while I watch. Wouldn't you?



posted on Jun, 19 2005 @ 04:18 PM
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Originally posted by Zanzibar

Originally posted by Dulcimer
Have you ever seen a cave painting with a drawing of an alien?

IE the ole trademark "grey" ?

Didnt think so.


Why yes, yes I have. Ive got a whole folder full of them and when I upload them Ill show everyone.

EDIT- Imageshack dosnt work so ill have to find some other way of posting them, any got any ideas?

EDIT2- Stuff what I just said, I worked it out at last.

files.abovetopsecret.com...

files.abovetopsecret.com...

Those are the two most 'grey' like Ive got but I have alot of ancient UFO paintings and stuff so If anyone wants to see them just say and Ill post them.



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[edit on 18-6-2005 by Zanzibar]


Those are pretty interesting. The first one doesnt appear to look like much of anything. I see it as two people with halo's.

But the 2nd one, more facial features come in, but it does have those same halo's....

It is interesting. Where are they from?



posted on Jun, 19 2005 @ 05:15 PM
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Look I’m not trying to be a raved ignorant person here but you cant go by caveman paintings from hundreds of years ago... you don’t know what they were seeing or thinking. For all we know it could have been a bird or an eclipse or something.

Lol, look, I have cousins who believe in all of that advanced technology from Extra terrestrials but I don’t think its plausible and ill tell you why.

If an advanced intelligent species, and they HAVE to be advanced being able to find us out here, flew 10 trillion light years to find other life and came upon our planet, unless they were planning to invade and kill us all off, they would make contact.

Also, how would they land and give all these advanced technology things to our government, without the rest of the world seeing the meeting?

You can use our own practicality to argue this as well. If we flew across the universe and finally found intelligent life, we wouldn’t sit there watching them, (and probing them up the butt). We would go down there and establish contact. Unless we went there to destroy them all. Again if that was the case here I think we would all be gone by now don’t you?



posted on Jun, 19 2005 @ 06:16 PM
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If an advanced intelligent species, and they HAVE to be advanced being able to find us out here, flew 10 trillion light years to find other life and came upon our planet, unless they were planning to invade and kill us all off, they would make contact.


How can you possibly know that? We are talking about beings that are most likely totally different from us. How can you think you know anything at all about their motives? This is the height of human arrogance.

Perhaps many just wish to observe, perhaps others realize what an open landing would do to us, there are lots of potential reasons why they have not made open contact. Not the least of which is the possibility that contact was made with elements of our government and they were told to stay away because it would destroy our Society.

That full contact would be destructive is still the opinion in many parts of the scientific community, are you aware of this?




Also, how would they land and give all these advanced technology things to our government, without the rest of the world seeing the meeting?


Few people believe that they 'gave' us anything. What we have learned has been from reverse-engineering what we have found.

1947, something crashes at Roswell

End of 47, beginning of 48, the transistor is created.

The transistor was created by 3 scientists who were assigned to the project. Normal proceedure is to assign 1 top guy and assistants since no one ever knows when a discovery will be made. But in this case 3 were assigned. If you do a little research you will find it is almost universal that the people who knew the 3 do not believe they had the brains to create such a huge new bit of tech.

But if you know there is something to 'discover' you might assign 3 average guys who would want to take credit because they have done little else.

Stealth material.

I hope it at least it makes sense that we could study the material from a crashed ship and learn about the physical make-up. It took a very long time to accomplish this task as it would.


Nobody gave us anything, what we have learned is logical and makes perfect sense to anyone who really looks at the matter.

A.T
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posted on Jun, 19 2005 @ 07:16 PM
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Originally posted by Alexander Tau

1947, something crashes at Roswell




SOMETHING. no one says it was a super alien spacecraft..it was most likely the top secret weather baloon used for detecting the soviet missile testing.. now whats more likely? a alien spaceship so advanced but yet it crashed near where the Airforce happens to test advanced stuff?

The transistor was created the same year. So what? that means nothing.

infact: the transister was probably invented years back and was used in the top secret technology that failed and crashed at roswell and they were afraid that people would find out they had them so they ""invented"" it

And why are all these alien sighting ALWAYS near military bases? are they scouting for ways to destroy our military from under us? are they going to steal our nukes?
WAIT maybe it was the aliens who GAVE us nukes..not Eienstien and his scientist friends..

maybe the real reason all these alien sightings are at military bases is more realistic..its because its MILITARY technology...top secret s hit that looks like spaceships to us because its new and we dont know what it is!





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posted on Jun, 19 2005 @ 07:21 PM
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imAMERICAN ,

I don't think you get it . UFO's outdate the U.S. Government by centuries.



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posted on Jun, 19 2005 @ 07:25 PM
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O.K., but what I feel may be happening could be surveilance of US Bases simply to understand if there is aggressive activity capable from the bases they observe?

Look at the witness statements from /91 Phoenix incident.

Dallas



posted on Jun, 19 2005 @ 07:26 PM
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omg.. you dont get it! THEY ARENT ALIENS! ITS TOP SECRET US AIRFORCE TECH. and your eating out of the hand of uncle sam..they want you to think its aliens..its really exciting new technology..stuff we wont see for decades...




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