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posted on Jun, 17 2005 @ 02:18 PM
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I was wandering about Munich this past week and noticed a sign atop a building that I thought I had seen before among the conspiracy / secret society posts here. Anyone have any interesting info? Or is this just my imagination getting the best of me?





posted on Jun, 17 2005 @ 02:25 PM
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It is similar to one of my Avatars, is that an eye in a triangle




posted on Jun, 17 2005 @ 02:32 PM
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If you notice, there is the golden symbol on top, and an engraving, that seems to have a dove flying down (usually means the holy spirit descending to earth), in the stonework below that.

What building is this?



posted on Jun, 17 2005 @ 02:45 PM
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I have cropped the eye at full resolution from the original photo and blown up 3x. (The one above was compressed to save space).

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This was just SE of Marienplatz, across the street from the Toy Museum (Spielszeug-museum).



posted on Jun, 17 2005 @ 02:52 PM
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I am curious about the fresco below it. That almost looks like flies? Certainly very odd.



posted on Jun, 17 2005 @ 03:07 PM
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The building seems to be religious, maybe a church or something of the sort...? An all-seeing eye, a dove descending to earth, and the words "In Major Dei Gloriam" which means something like "In the greater glory of God"... yeap, it's a church.

[edit on 17-6-2005 by sebatwerk]



posted on Jun, 17 2005 @ 03:31 PM
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It looks ALOT more like a fly, than the 'downward descending Holy Spirit' which doesn't make sense any way, because the Holy Spirit is all around us, not above us.

Unless I missed a class, where they talked about how symbolism in Christianity were actually put there by others, under the premise that there is no better way to hide something than right under someone's nose.

Show them a fresco for the Lord of the Flies, with a graven image symbolic of God ontop, and tell them it has to do with God seeing everything, and that it is just a Dove with some badly broken wings pointed straight towards the ground like it is plummeting to its death but don't worry:

Thats a good thing.

Also, you can go to:
www.GovTrack.us

And see if you think this site is 'official' or just, in on it.



posted on Jun, 17 2005 @ 03:32 PM
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the eye in the pyramid symbol can be seen on many of the old buildings in Prague as well, and not just churches.



posted on Jun, 17 2005 @ 03:39 PM
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Originally posted by akilles
It looks ALOT more like a fly, than the 'downward descending Holy Spirit' which doesn't make sense any way, because the Holy Spirit is all around us, not above us.


So then why does it look almost EXACTLY like the dove on the Knights of Columbus logo?



posted on Jun, 17 2005 @ 04:12 PM
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Can anybody see the writing on the wall better than I ---

looks like

First letter covered by pillar then NMAJORDEIGLORIAM

to me -- does that mean anything or can anyone see it clearer than I can manage to get.
And the statue looks like a man holding a child -- the man having some type of gold hat on maybe.



posted on Jun, 17 2005 @ 04:37 PM
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Originally posted by justme1640
First letter covered by pillar then NMAJORDEIGLORIAM

to me -- does that mean anything or can anyone see it clearer than I can manage to get.


It says "In Major Dei Gloriam", which means "In the greater glory of God" in Latin.



posted on Jun, 17 2005 @ 08:15 PM
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what angle does the sun around the triangle stop at on the bottom? im no mason, but it looks familiar. how weird that something merged a KoC and mason symbol then...

i always thought a descending dove symbolized destruction?



posted on Jun, 17 2005 @ 08:24 PM
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One word for people who think the dove is some how Christian (other than if it is Noah's dove, in which case it is being revered much MUCH too highly):

Shekinah.

Why a dove?

Referred to as the Holy Spirit?(previously Ghost) "English translations have followed suit as the word ghost has lost its old meaning of the spirit or soul that is inside man"

Feminine... Not because of symbolism 'coming down to Earth', the Bible describes the Holy Spirit as omnipresent, that does NOT entail coming down!



posted on Jun, 17 2005 @ 08:47 PM
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Originally posted by NuTroll
im no mason, but it looks familiar. how weird that something merged a KoC and mason symbol then...


What mason symbol? I don't see a masonic symbol in the design...?



posted on Jun, 17 2005 @ 09:23 PM
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Originally posted by sebatwerk

Originally posted by NuTroll
im no mason, but it looks familiar. how weird that something merged a KoC and mason symbol then...


What mason symbol? I don't see a masonic symbol in the design...?


im sorry, i meant the scot rite symbol. perhaps my geometry is off but it looks like it to me (the angle going into the triangle that looks like someone took a slice out of the sun symbol surrounding the triangle)



posted on Jun, 17 2005 @ 09:32 PM
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Where have I seen this symbol before...


I cannot tell you where you have seen it before, or what the symbol means.
I did do a little googling on it though.

I googled for images of the museum that you named.

The first image shows the building from a distance (which didnt really help identify the symbol)


So then I looked up a map hoping to identify the name of the building
To me it looks like the building across the street is called Heilig Geist Kirche (Note that St. Peter is right beside it.)


So I googled Heilig Geist Kirche Munich and found an image of it from above in St. Peter, which to makes me feel more comfortable that it is the Heilig Geist Kirche.


I also found this information:
Heilig-Geist-Kirche



Kind of Building Chirch
Style Barock
Built from Viscardi/Ettenhofer
End Of Construction 1727
Place Tal 77
Station Marienplatz
Line all S-Bahnen; U3, U6;
tramline 19, bus 51

The history of the Heilig-Geist(holy ghost) -church begins into the year 1208. In this year in front of the gates of Munich, a pilgrim house with chapel was built. A hospital emerged 1250 and the Heilig-Geist(holy ghost) church was finally constructed 1327. In 1727 the gothic building was changed into a baroque church. The interior decoration was made by the Gebrüder Asam. At the main entrance, the graves of duke Ferdinand of Bavaria and his wife are to be seen from the year 1608, made by Hans Kumper. In the course of time the Heilig-Geist(holy ghost) church has grown to a style combination of Gotik, Baroque and Rokoko.


I also found this picture



Your picture of the sun symbol is by far the best I have found, but perhaps someone will take the information I found a little farther, and maybe find a better pic, and more information about the symbol than I was able to.

Best of luck
makeitso



posted on Jun, 17 2005 @ 09:36 PM
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The eye in the triangle is called the "Eye of Horus". Look on the back of a US dollar and you will find the same thing. I understand it as being a masonic symbol.



posted on Jun, 18 2005 @ 01:04 AM
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Originally posted by NuTroll
im sorry, i meant the scot rite symbol. perhaps my geometry is off but it looks like it to me (the angle going into the triangle that looks like someone took a slice out of the sun symbol surrounding the triangle)


What I'm trying to say is that is not a MASONIC symbol. The All-seeing-eye with rays of lights coming from it has been a symbol representative of deity, which has been used by MANY organizations for a lon time.



posted on Jun, 18 2005 @ 11:11 AM
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I see several symbols, most of which have at one time or another been discussed here. The " all seeing eye" , the pyramid/triangle/delta, the sun symbol, etc.,etc., etc., are all , both independent of each other and together
are symbols that have been in use as far back as records are found.



posted on Jun, 18 2005 @ 02:36 PM
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Thanks all - particularly the identification of the building and history. I probably took several hundred pics in the last week and couldn't remember the specific location / id for all of them. Plus, because my German is so atrocious, I was loathe to ask anyone any questions.







 
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