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Originally posted by Disturbed Deliverer
More room? The F-14 is 50% bigger then the F-22. It has more thrust.
You don't even try and give an explanation? What exactly is wrong with those nations? They are all strong allies. We built Afghanistan's government. Australia and South Korea have both gone into Iraq with us, and contributed large numbers of troops.
More like the entire developed world who buys Chinese goods. And China would be #ed because without the low prices goods, they loose massive amounts of investment.
Bull. There were interviews and pictures done with people in the square who were injured.
I remembered my statement, you just didn't specifically address it in the entire topic. There was no argument on it. And what I said is entirely true.
And in all out war between America and China, Australia's trade with China is going to be shut down, anyway. Nothing would be coming in or out of China by way of sea. The best bet they have is to simply end the war as quickly as possible, and that's done by helping America in the end.
Originally posted by Jezza
China closing the gap to the 1970s that is.
Aus dont need china
Originally posted by Jezza
Yeah the purchase of lpg
Didnt the chinese contract for the next 50 years supply of lpg?
Originally posted by FredT
Ah we now see the Chinese version of our holocaust deniers in ChinaWhite. Its pretty clear what went on in Tiananmen
Or see many from this site (WARNING GRAPHIC IMAGES)
China's Government Massacres Students
I meant room as in they already have carrier full of aircraft how are they going to accomundate airforce jets to. airforce poilots flying the planes or navy pilots
IRAQ. south koprea and australia both have very strong ties to chinas economy. they had nothing to lose by going to iraq.
and china buys machinery raw materials etc... does any other country have a large trade deficit with china?
True do you have any proof to back that up
Known for its combat role in the Korean conflict, this aircraft was single-handedly responsible for turning the tide of the air war in favor of the United States.
Yeah what happens after? do you think the chinese are going to have warm feelings to australian imports.
Originally posted by Disturbed Deliverer
If that's what you were talking abut, then your statement isn't even worth addressing it's that god damn foolish.
Well, I don't see any explanation for Afghanistan. Guess that means I won't even get some half-assed explanation from you on that one.
They have more ties with America militarily, economically and socially. They won't be able to trade with China as long as America and China are at war, anyway.
Japan, and just about every other developed nation that trades with China.
For someone who gives so little proof, you sure ask for a lot of it.
Known for its combat role in the Korean conflict, this aircraft was single-handedly responsible for turning the tide of the air war in favor of the United States.
www.globalsecurity.org...
After China will be in American hands, and Australian companies will be given special privelages in the rebuilding process.
Also, FredT didn't call it a holocaust, he compared YOU to the people who deny the holocaust happened.
Originally posted by FredT
Ah we now see the Chinese version of our holocaust deniers in ChinaWhite. Its pretty clear what went on in Tiananmen
The accomplishments of the CCF (Chinese Communist Forces) against an army which was far better armed, and which enjoyed total air supremacy, are truly remarkable. Although the NK had been well armed by Russia, and carefully prepared for their invasion of the South, the CCF were so ill-equipped to challenge a modern army that it is almost understandable why our Far East Command initially thought they were an ineffective rabble of "volunteers". Armed with a bewildering mixture of British, US, Japanese and other weapons, presenting an incomprehensible logistics problem, without heavy artillery or tanks, and no air power, it was difficult for high command to take them seriously. Plus, they gave no obvious sign of their entry, let alone their large numbers, until they first attacked.
Originally posted by chinawhite
Originally posted by FredT
Ah we now see the Chinese version of our holocaust deniers in ChinaWhite. Its pretty clear what went on in Tiananmen
i dont deny people died in beijing but no-one was killed in tiananmen square
Originally posted by warthog911
Originally posted by chinawhite
Originally posted by FredT
Ah we now see the Chinese version of our holocaust deniers in ChinaWhite. Its pretty clear what went on in Tiananmen
i dont deny people died in beijing but no-one was killed in tiananmen square
Are you being sarcastic or is this a joke.Everyone ones knows thousands of innocent students died in Tiananmen square.I suspect you are one of the Chinese govt agents trying to debunk and spread disinfo and spreading propaganda.
However, it is important to note that NSA documents declassified in 1999 show that their intelligence gives an estimate of 180-500 killed. Thus the various Chinese government estimates are in agreement with the official US government estimate.
Within the Square itself, there was apparently a debate between those including Han Dongfang, who wished to withdraw peacefully, and those including Chai Ling, who wished to stand within the square at the risk of possibly creating a bloodbath. Those in favor of withdrawal won, and the protesters left the square. The Chinese government has claimed that no one was killed in the square itself, a fact that by the accounts of those who were actually in the Square appears to be technically true, but misleading in that it does not account for the casualties in the approaches to the square
afganistan doesn't need a mention. just imagine the logistic problems
China is koreas largest expot market and austrailas second. how much south koreans australians live in america
www.rieti.go.jp...
Of this amount, exports to China surged 43.6% to $57.2 billion, while imports from China rose 21.9% to $75.2 billion.
you haven't gave any proof in you arguement with me.... and i have provided links maps and quotes. i dont have to spoon feed you everytime you wanna know something.
Ummm.......... whats this have to do with anything
ummmm....... you think china is going to let people in their country. think about the 2+million troops + reserve forces +milta... ifs gonna be a long war. it wouldn't matter how much high-tech equipment you have you wont have enough to patrol the chiense population
i dont deny people died in beijing but no-one was killed in tiananmen square
The accomplishments of the CCF (Chinese Communist Forces) against an army which was far better armed, and which enjoyed total air supremacy, are truly remarkable. Although the NK had been well armed by Russia, and carefully prepared for their invasion of the South, the CCF were so ill-equipped to challenge a modern army that it is almost understandable why our Far East Command initially thought they were an ineffective rabble of "volunteers". Armed with a bewildering mixture of British, US, Japanese and other weapons, presenting an incomprehensible logistics problem, without heavy artillery or tanks, and no air power, it was difficult for high command to take them seriously. Plus, they gave no obvious sign of their entry, let alone their large numbers, until they first attacked.
Originally posted by Disturbed Deliverer
Afghanistan borders China. What logistical problems would there be? It certainly wouldn't be more difficult then launching from Australia or Japan.
First, there aren't that many of either group in America. We don't even have that many Chinese.
You'll notice this part right here:
Of this amount, exports to China surged 43.6% to $57.2 billion, while imports from China rose 21.9% to $75.2 billion.
That's a trade deficit.
And they had to add in Hong Kong and Taiwan to tip the scales in China for everything else. Pretty pathetic...
I just gave links in my last post. I've given a source anytime you've asked. You have not done the same.
Before the Sabre was introduced into Korea, the airwar was in the communist forces favor.
By September 1951, with some 525 MiG-15s in the Yalu area, Soviet and Chinese leaders were confident enough to begin planning the deployment of Chinese and new North Korean MiG-15 regiments into North Korea itself, outside Chinese sanctuaries.
The only problem is supplying the bullets. With weapons like gunships, any mob of Chinese civillians could be cut down easy. Once America gains air superiority, and we will, it's over for all Chinese conventional forces.
I still fail to see what the point of bringing this up is. Even if true (it's just a dumb statement by the Chinese government), it shows nothing at all. Thousands of civllians were still killed.
When China first invaded, it had superiority. It had Russian pilots and a large number of Mig-15's (over 1,000). America wouldn't even let its pilots fly until we got the Sabre.
Originally posted by Disturbed Deliverer
America wouldn't even let its pilots fly until we got the Sabre.