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NEWS: Man may have molested up to 36000 children

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posted on Jun, 16 2005 @ 03:20 PM
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San Jose police have arrested 63-year-old Dean Arthur Schwartzmiller for child sex crimes against thousands of victims. After raiding Dean's home and searching his bedroom, several binders full of child pornography were discovered along with logs of names of young boys with detailed descriptions of the sex acts that were performed.
 



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SAN JOSE, Calif. Jun 16, 2005 — A convicted child molester jailed in California may have committed sex crimes against thousands of victims, police said Thursday after finding computers, binders and hand-written records complete with children's names and codes for various sex acts.

San Jose Police Lt. Scott Cornfield described 63-year-old Dean Arthur Schwartzmiller as "one of the most active child molesters we've ever seen."

During a search of his bedroom in San Jose, police discovered binders full of child pornography images and numerous logs with meticulous records, listing more than 36,000 children's names mostly boys and codes that appear to indicate how he abused them.

"If one-tenth of these numbers are accurate, we're looking at hundreds of victims in a number of states. The reason we want to tell the world about this is because we believe he's been involved in child molestations in a number of countries," Cornfield said.

Schwartzmiller was being held without bail on one count of aggravated sexual assault on a child under 14 and six counts of lewd and lascivious conduct on a child under 14, with each count alleging multiple victims. He was arrested in Washington state late last month and sent to San Jose on June 7.


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Dean Arthur Schwartzmiller has resided in CA for the past 30 yrs, but has been arrested for child sex crimes in New York, Idaho, Oregon, California, Arkansas and Washington. It is also believed that he has been involved in crimes in Brazil and Mexico.

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[edit on 16-6-2005 by mpeake]




posted on Jun, 16 2005 @ 04:02 PM
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OK... maybe i am slow...(well, obviously)
but this guy has been busted HOW MANY TIMES?
apparently several...

soooooo... WTF judge let him loose...

someone starchamber this fool... and while you are at it...maybe starchamber the irresponsible judge who let him go too...

beyond incredible... simply not deserving of anything more than a bullet...
I'll be glad to donate it, if someone will use it on this SOB

[edit on 16-6-2005 by LazarusTheLong]



posted on Jun, 16 2005 @ 04:08 PM
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This is the news forum. Please do not circumvent the censors.



posted on Jun, 16 2005 @ 04:11 PM
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Let's say the guy started molesting kids when he was 15. That's 2.05 kids a day that he's molested every day for the past 48 years. This guy is the lowest form of scum on the planet, but I have a problem with the numbers.

Peace



posted on Jun, 16 2005 @ 04:15 PM
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The 36,000 number seems so incredible to be impossible. But as the article says even if a small fraction of this number is correct, it's still horrible.

This guy should be executed.



posted on Jun, 16 2005 @ 04:19 PM
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I seem to remember a quote by stalin abotu the differance between tragedy and a statistic that could describe this animal. Satan is going to have to spit Brutus out of one of his mouths for that guy. (referanceing Dante's inferno)



posted on Jun, 16 2005 @ 04:23 PM
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How the hell does a guy like this keep getting out of jail??

I'm not a big fan of the "three strikes and you're out" laws, but you'd think raping children (as opposed to say, getting caught smoking a blunt or whatever) would be one case in which few people would object to their use.



posted on Jun, 16 2005 @ 04:24 PM
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Even if the number is off by 35,999 he still deserves to be shot. The only difference the numbers should make is how he dies, but be it one or 36,000 he should be a corpse before the year is out.



posted on Jun, 16 2005 @ 05:46 PM
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These numbers are ridicilous, no way he could've done that. Is there any actual evidence that has done anything? I mean names and codes could mean just about anything.



posted on Jun, 16 2005 @ 10:49 PM
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i feel sick just reading the story, but how did this guy find it its true that many children. where were the kids parents? did they just let their children go off to a strange mans house because he had video games? its not like he was a family friend apparently he did construction type work and found his victems through his work at the homes of the victems. i wonder how they were ever allowed to leave with him? I just feel sick!



posted on Jun, 16 2005 @ 11:28 PM
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250,000-500,000 pedophiles reside in the United States.
Source: U.S. Department of Justice

Convicted child molesters who abused girls had an average of 52 victims each. Men who molested boys had an astonishing average of 150 victims.
Source: In a study funded by the National Institute of Mental Health Dr. Gene G. Abel, Emory University

The typical child sex offender molests an average of 117 children, most of whom do not report the offense.
Source: The National Institute of Mental Health, 1988

1.3 million children were sexually assaulted in 1995.
Source: The Gallup Poll, December 1995

It is estimated that there are 60 million survivors of childhood sexual abuse in America today.
Source: Forward, 1993

Reported cases of child sexual abuse reached epidemic proportions, with a reported 322 percent increase from 1980 to 1990.
Source: Sorensen & Snow, 1991

1 in 4 girls will be sexually abused by age 18.
Source: Russel, 1983; Finkelhor, 1978; DeFrancis, 1969

1 in 6 boys will be sexually abused by age 18.
Source: Nielson, 1983; Sgroi, 1978

89% of child sexual assault causes involve persons known to the child, such as a caretaker or family acquaintance.
Source: Diane Russell Survey, 1978



www.rasac.org...

I post these statistics (though I wish they were more up to date) for you to emphasize a point. Although what this article describes is horrendous, the fact that it takes numbers like these to make headlines speaks volumes. Everyone expresses outrage that something like this could happen, but very few know how often it happens. It shouldn't take words like "Molester May Have 36,000 Victims" to outrage us. IMO one should be sufficient.

Statistically speaking, we probably all know someone this has happened to. I think we can all agree that all of these cases are equally distressing.



posted on Jun, 16 2005 @ 11:32 PM
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Originally posted by intrepid
This is the news forum. Please do not circumvent the censors.


How does that comment contribute to the thread ? Let the mods do their job.

As for the article, I confirm to the death penalty being reinstated in San Jose just for this sob. If anyone viewing this thread lives in san jose then get some people together and protest outside the courtroom, heck get the mp's involved (this is the reason why they are elected) to make sure this guy doesn't start his line of trade in San Jose.



posted on Jun, 16 2005 @ 11:36 PM
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Unless there's 36000 bodies somewhere we should have thousands of witnesses to this case, as far I can tell there is none.



posted on Jun, 17 2005 @ 12:44 AM
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thats just sick

How in this day of age can he get away with so many of them without somebody telling somebody. To me doesnt make sense



posted on Jun, 17 2005 @ 01:21 AM
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Originally posted by websurfer

Originally posted by intrepid
This is the news forum. Please do not circumvent the censors.


How does that comment contribute to the thread ? Let the mods do their job.


Intrepid is a moderator and for numerous reasons laid out by the owner of this site, profanity is not tolerated here period, so he was quite right requesting that.

On the main page of the forum you can find a staff list because I know often while viewing ATSNN threads you can't see who is staff.

Back on topic, I think more blame is being placed on the man than he deserves. Yes, he is clearly a psychopath, but that's who he is. It is supposed to be the job of the justice system as a whole to protect the citizens (even moreso the defenseless children) from such people. It is the justice system that failed society in that regard. A beast is a beast. It's the person who leaves the door open for it to come in that is to blame. Removal from society is the necessity here, and it didn't happen. Because of that who knows how many lives have been irreversibly damaged.



posted on Jun, 17 2005 @ 02:15 AM
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While it may not be impossible that someone sexually abused this many children/people this just begs credibility.

Why is it when a social issue is something everyone thinks everyone agrees on, they all jump at it to excess?

Did you know Michael Jackson rates lower than O J Simpson?
Child sexual abuse rates lower than cold-blooded butchering of another human being? Or is it that its ok to Butcher your own estranged wife?

Sexual abuse of a child is a severe trauma to the child. But part of this trauma is amplified by a society that is so hysterical when it comes to sex.

Many outstanding people were sexually abused as children.
Many more were not.

Sex is not terminal. Death is.

Janet Jackson's tit causes more problems in the nation and especially Washington, than killing a hundred thousand innocent Iraqis for WMDs that were never there.

We are probably choking ourselves off the planet, but do people get excited about that?

Where are people's heads?
What are your priorities?
.



posted on Jun, 17 2005 @ 02:59 AM
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Sexual abuse of a child is a severe trauma to the child. But part of this trauma is amplified by a society that is so hysterical when it comes to sex.


It doesn't help to ignore the problem, either.

Part of the reason why so many get away with it is the knee jerk reaction that it couldn't possibly be true.

I don't have any answers to this problem - it seems to be built in to our genetics, which is a sad commentary about our genetic history.

But I do think we have to face the problem head on when it occurs and deal with it so it doesn't continue or spread.

I'm all for outrage and punishment - it might make someone who's thinking of succumbing to secret desires think twice.



posted on Jun, 17 2005 @ 03:04 AM
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Slank,



Sexual abuse of a child is a severe trauma to the child. But part of this trauma is amplified by a society that is so hysterical when it comes to sex.
...
Sex is not terminal. Death is.



You have a good point about sexual abuse causing severe trauma in a child and about our priorities not being what they should. However, that is where our agreement ends.

The trauma that a child goes through is not amplified by society. In fact, most cases go unreported , so society never gets a chance to further their trauma. In the cases that are reported, a family member is usually the first to know. Then the family member plays it off like the child is mistaken or just plain lying. In the relatively small number of cases that are taken seriously, the child then learns that they did nothing wrong and the adult will be punished or kept from hurting them again. How can that amplify trauma? I am not saying that some members of society can not cause harm and add pain to the child, but I will discuss this further in the next paragraph.

Sex is not terminal, but sexual abuse does last for the rest of the child’s life. Death on the other hand can be looked at in one of two ways, depending on your beliefs. Either you are dead and it’s over with or you are dead and you move on to another life. It’s over. No more pain. Either way may be preferable when compared to the lives these children will lead.

The child has been courageous enough to tell someone what was going on. Then possibly had to go through it several times with detectives, child services, and in some cases a courtroom. After putting all of that behind them, they still have to live with the memories, the taunts from other children (so having a friend to talk to about your pain is out of the question) occasionally knowing that they may never be able to have children, reliving the abuse through nightmares, telling every person they become involved with why they act they way they do concerning intimacy issues, have distrust issues for the rest of their lives, and to top it off deal with the “crackpots” in society that I believe you may have been referring to.

Even as adults, these former victims are afraid. They sometimes unknowingly sabotage relationships because of commitment issues. They hear the above mentioned “crackpots” talk about premarital sex will send you straight to you know where. Then there is a whole other category of human scum that think they somehow asked for it or deserved it.....
(see this thread www.belowtopsecret.com...' )
Add to this the fact that although several people overcome being abused and lead semi-normal productive lives, there are a few that go on to commit the same atrocious acts because when they were young they were exposed to it.

If society as a whole is at fault for any of the trauma that is caused by molestation, it is strictly related to the lack of anything being done to stop it.

I apologize if I have offended you in any way....and I will get off of my soapbox now.

PS: Although this is mostly IMO, if you need any corroboration ask a child psychiatrist or a victim.



posted on Jun, 17 2005 @ 07:00 AM
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Originally posted by slank
Sex is not terminal. Death is.

Janet Jackson's tit causes more problems in the nation and especially Washington, than killing a hundred thousand innocent Iraqis for WMDs that were never there.

We are probably choking ourselves off the planet, but do people get excited about that?

Where are people's heads?
What are your priorities?
.


Those things are all true but I think we're hardwired to protect our children as a major part of our survival instinct. We don't stop to weigh sexual or violent attacks on children against global warming or famines, it's just a gut reaction on a primal level. Judges have to switch that off and maybe that's why sentences always seem too light and people like this are out on the street.

That's okay though, if it was my child harmed I'd want them back on the street asap.



posted on Jun, 17 2005 @ 07:40 AM
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Im not about to defend a child rapist in any way, shape, or form but----36,000 victims?????

Do the math. Theres no way. Not one dad in 36,000 found out? Come on.

What he may have, and this in itself is disgusting, is 36,000 seperate images. And that is most likely an estimated guess.

No matter. If he raped one kid (lets call it what it really is), he needs to go to jail.

Two? He needs to go to jail for life?

Three? Three strikes and your out, buddy. Time to die.

Four? How slowly should we kill him?

Five or more? Send him to the middle east wearing nothing but the American flag. They will rip him apart limb by limb and put it on the internet.

This guy in jail? Its a death sentence even if it isnt. All those guys in jail may be awful criminals but they still have kids and they still care about them (in their own way). This guy is toast. White bread on a BBQ.

What was he wearing when they arrested him? A raincoat?

I know a number of people that were sexually abused; relatives, ex-girlfriends, and friends. Based solely on their experiences, here is what I know about child rapists:

1. Every victim I know knows someone of the opposite sex that was abused by the same attacker. This doesnt mean that all bisexual people abuse kids but from what I have seen, EVERYONE that abuses kids is bisexual.

2. Every victim I know knows someone who is a victim of the same person. So, there is never, ever just one victim. There is always trail. Always.

3. Of all of the attackers that were investigated, not one was prosecuted. As long as there isnt any evidence (liquid, hair), the attackers dont have anything to worry about. They simply weather the storm and pay the legal fees and they are off to find another victim.

4. Half of the attackers have been investigated more then once. Again, NONE were prosecuted.

5. Every attacker that was investigated claimed to be a victim of sexual abuse. Not all people that were abused grow up to abuse children. But based on what Ive seen, if someone says they are a victim, watch out.

6. Every attacker had a reputation for being "great with kids." Makes sense, doesnt it?

Anyway, thats the information I have gathered throughout my life. Do with it what you want.

My "sample" involves 8 victims and 7 attackers.




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