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Topic started on 16-6-2005 @ 11:23 AM by Odium


Socialism is an ideology with the core belief that a society should exist in which popular collectives control the means of power, and therefore the means of production. In application, however, the de facto meaning of socialism has evolved and branched to a great degree, and though highly politicised, is strongly related to the establishment of an organized working class, created through either revolution or social evolution, with the purpose of building a classless society. It has also, increasingly, become concentrated on social reforms within modern democracies. This concept and the term Socialist also refer to a group of ideologies, an economic system, or a state that exists or has existed. See Definitions of Socialism.

In Marxist theory, it also refers to the society that would succeed capitalism, and in some cases develop further into communism. Marxism and communism are both very specific branches of socialism. The two do not represent socialism as a whole.

In modern socialist theory, it is in the pursuit of the goal of creating a democratic society that would form the backbone of an ideal welfare state.

The word dates back at least to the early nineteenth century. It was first used, self-referentially, in the English language in 1827 to refer to followers of Robert Owen. In France, again self-referentially, it was used in 1832 to refer to followers of the doctrines of Saint-Simon and thereafter by Pierre Leroux and J. Regnaud in l'Encyclopédie nouvelle. Use of the word spread widely and has been used differently in different times and places, both by various individuals and groups that consider themselves socialist and by their opponents. While there is wide variation between socialist groups, nearly all would agree that they are bound together by a common history rooted originally in nineteenth and twentieth-century struggles by industrial and agricultural workers, operating according to principles of solidarity and advocating an egalitarian society, with an economics that would, in their view, serve the broad populace rather than a favoured few.

Robert Owen

Robert Owen (1771-1858) was a successful businessman who devoted much of his profits to improving the lives of his employees. His reputation grew when he set up a textile factory in New Lanark, Scotland and introduced shorter working hours, schools for children and renovated housing. He also set up an Owenite commune called New Harmony in Indiana, USA. This collapsed when one of his business partners ran off with all the profits. Owen's main contribution to socialist thought was the view that human social behaviour is not fixed or absolute, and that human beings have the free will to organize themselves into any kind of society they wish.

See here for more information.

Welfare State

Welfare state describes a nation where the government seeks to guarantee a set of social welfare benefits meant to ensure minimum quality of life standards for all citizens. The functional provider of benefits may be a central or state government, a state-sponsored company, a private corporation or a charity.

See here for more information.

Marxism

Marxism is the political practice and social theory based on the works of Karl Marx, a 19th century German philosopher, economist, journalist, and revolutionary, along with Friedrich Engels. Marx drew on Georg Hegel's philosophy, the political economy of Adam Smith, Ricardian economics, and 19th century French socialism to develop a critique of society which he claimed was both scientific and revolutionary. This critique achieved its most systematic (albeit unfinished) expression in his masterpiece, Capital: A Critique of Political Economy (Das Kapital).

Marxism is based on the works of the nineteenth century philosopher, Karl Marx. Since Marx's death in 1883, various groups around the world have appealed to Marxism as the intellectual basis for their politics and policies, which can be dramatically different and conflicting. One of the first major splits occurred between the advocates of social democracy, who argued that the transition to socialism could occur within existing bourgeois parlimentarian frameworks, and communists, who argued that the transition to a socialist society required a revolution. Social democracy emerged within the Social Democratic Party of Germany, and caused it to abandon its Marxist roots by increments, while communism resulted in the formation of various communist parties.

Although there are still many Marxist revolutionary social movements and political parties around the world, since the collapse of the Soviet Union and its satellite states, relatively few countries have governments which describe themselves as Marxist. Although social democratic parties are in power in a number of Western nations, they long ago distanced themselves from their historical connections to Marx and his ideas. As of 2004, Laos, Vietnam, Cuba, and the People's Republic of China have governments in power which describe themselves as Marxist. However, none of the countries that have or do designate themselves as Marxist are truly so. Marx argued for the democratic control of the products of society and envisioned the withering away of the state. In the former Soviet Union, China, and all the other so-called Marxist states, there was/is very little democratic control. Also, these contries have historically possessed even larger governmental bureaucratic structures than so-called demoracies.North Korea is inaccurately described as Marxist, as both Kim Il Sung and Kim Jong Il have rejected conventional Marxist views in favour of the Korean "communist" variant, juche. Also, Libya is often referred to as Communist, but Muammar al-Qaddafi has sought to lead them into Islamic socialism.

Some members of the laissez-faire and "individualist" schools believe the principles of modern bourgeois states or big governments can be understood as "Marxist". Marx and Engels's Communist Manifesto include a number of steps that they believed a society would experience as workers emancipated themselves from the capitalist system such as "Free education for all children in public schools": some of these appear to have been implemented in the form of Keynesianism, the welfare state, new liberalism, social democracy and other changes to the capitalist system in some capitalist states. Some individualists believe that reformers in the capitalist system are (or were) "secret Marxists" as they support policies that are similar to those steps Marx and Engels said a developed capitalist society would go through. Some other individualists in common with Marx's theory of historical materialism see the capitalist reforms as harbingers of the future coming of communism.

To Marxists, on the other hand, these reforms represent responses to political pressures from working-class political parties and unions, themselves responding to perceived abuses of the capitalist system. Further, in this view, many of these reforms reflect efforts to "save" or "improve" capitalism (without abolishing it) by dealing with market failures. Further, although Marxism does see a role for an enlightened (socialist) government to represent the proletariat through a revolutionary period of indeterminate length, it sees an eventual lightening of that burden, a "withering away of the state."

Encyclopedia of Marxism
Marx and Engels

Key figures:
Friedrich Engels
Karl Marx


Communism

Communism is a term that can refer to one of several things: a social and economic system, an ideology which supports that system, or a political movement that wishes to implement that system.

As a social and economic system, communism would be a type of egalitarian society with no state, no privately owned means of production, and no social classes. All property is owned cooperatively and collectively, by the community as a whole, and all people have equal social and economic status and rights. Human need or advancement is not left unsatisfied because of poverty, and is rather solved through distribution of resources as needed. This is thus often the system proposed to solve the problem of the capitalist poverty cycle.

Perhaps the best known maxim of a communist society is "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need." This economic model is also referred to as a gift economy. (This definition is rather too wide for many tastes, since it encompasses, as Karl Popper has pointed out, the early Christian church, as it is described in the Acts of the Apostles).

As a political movement, communism is a more radical branch of the broader socialist movement. The communist movement differentiates itself from other branches of the socialist movement through their wish to completely do away with all aspects of market society under the final stage of the system, as well as some communists' commitment to armed revolutionary strategies for overthrowing capitalism, and their focus on the international working class as key in that revolution.

Manifesto of the Communist Party

Key Figures:

Vladimir Ilyich Lenin
Iosif Vissarionovich Stalin
Mao Zedong

Leninism

Leninism is a political and economic theory which builds upon Marxism (a form of Communism); it is a branch of Marxism (and it has been the dominant branch of Marxism in the world since the 1920's). Leninism was developed mainly by the Bolshevik leader Vladimir Lenin, and it was also put into practice by him after the Russian Revolution. Lenin's theories have been a source of controversy ever since their inception, having critics both on the Left (for example, social democrats, anarchists, and even other Marxists), from the center (for example, liberals), and on the Right (for example, conservatives, fascists, etc).

See here for more information.

Maoism

Maoism or Mao Tse-tung Thought (Chinese: 毛泽东思想, pinyin: Máo Zédōng Sīxiǎng), is a variant of Marxism-Leninism derived from the teachings of Mao Zedong (1893–1976). In the People's Republic of China (PRC) it is the official doctrine of the Communist Party of China. Since the reforms of Deng Xiaoping started in 1978, however, the definition and role of Mao Tse-tung's ideology in the PRC has radically changed.

It should be noted that the word "Maoism" has never been used by the PRC in its English-language publications except derisively: "Mao Tse-tung Thought" has always been the preferred term. Likewise, Maoist groups outside China have usually called themselves "Marxist-Leninist" rather than Maoist. This is a reflection of Mao's view that he did not change, but only developed, "Marxism-Leninism". The word "Maoist" has been used either as a pejorative term by other communists, or as a descriptive term by non-communist writers. However, some Maoist groups, believing that Mao's theories were substantial additions to the Marxist canon, call themselves "Marxist-Leninist-Maoist" or simply "Maoist"; for example, the Communist Party of Nepal (Maoist), who distinguish themselves from the much more mainstream Communist Party of Nepal (Unified Marxist-Leninist).

Outside the PRC, the term Maoism was used from the 1960s onwards, usually in a hostile sense, to describe parties or individuals who supported Mao Zedong and his form of Communism, as opposed to the form practised in the Soviet Union, which the parties supporting Mao denounced as "revisionist." These parties usually rejected the term Maoism, preferring to call themselves Marxist-Leninists. Since the death of Mao and the reforms of Deng, most of these parties have disappeared, but various small Communist groups in a number of countries continue to advance Maoist ideas.

The works of Mao Zedong

Stalinism

Stalinism is a brand of political theory, and the political and economic system implemented by Joseph Stalin in the Soviet Union. In current usage, the terms has in Western mainstream media become more or less synonymous to totalitarianism.

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Democratic socialism

Democratic socialism is a political movement propagating the ideals of socialism within the framework of a parliamentary democracy. Thinkers, writers and activists such as Robert Owen, Karl Marx, George Orwell, and Sidney and Beatrice Webb can all be said to have contributed to "democratic socialist philosophy". However, popular movements such as the growth of trade unionism, the Chartists and the Labour Party (UK) (a "democratic socialist party" according to the first line of its constitution) or the SPD in Germany (Sozialdemokratische Partei Deutschlands) are equally critical to understanding Democratic Socialism

See here for more information.

National Socialism

Nazism, or more correctly National Socialism (German: Nationalsozialismus, often abbreviated NS) is a political ideology promoting Germanic racial aspirations and a strong and centrally governed state. The term is most often used in connection with the dictatorship of Nazi Germany from 1933 to 1945 (the "Third Reich"). This ideology was held by the National Socialist German Workers Party (Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, commonly called NSDAP or the Nazi Party), which was led by its "Führer" Adolf Hitler. Adherents of Nazism held that the German nation and the Aryan race were superior to other races. Nazism has been outlawed in modern Germany, although remnants and revivalists, known as "Neo-Nazis", continue to operate in Germany and abroad. The term is derived from the word Nazi, which is used to label the supporters of the National Socialism. This term in turn was originally invented as tongue-in-cheek analogy to Sozi (a common and slightly pejorative abbreviation for socialists in Germany), but became more popular and much more pejorative than the original.

See here for more information.

Syndicalism

Syndicalism is a political and economic ideology which advocates giving control of both industry and government to labour union federations. Syndicalisme is a French word meaning "trade unionism". This milder version of syndicalism was overshadowed by revolutionary anarcho-syndicalism in the early 20th century, which was most powerful in Spain, but appeared in other parts of the world as well.

A model syndicalist community is as follows. The local unit, the syndicat, would communicate with other syndicats through the bourse de travail (labour exchange). The bourse would handle management and the transfer of commodities.

Syndicalism forms one of the three most common theories of a pre-managed economic and labor structure. It believes, on an ethical basis, that all participants in each organized trade internally share equal ownership of its output and therefore deserve equal earnings and benefits within that particular trade, regardless of position or duty. This contrasts socialism's emphasis on the distribution of output from all different trades to one another as required by each trade, not necessarily considering how those trades organize themselves internally. Both these systems of pre-organized economic structure can theoretically include variations on privatism, unlike the third such pre-arranged egalitarian strand, namely communism. Communism supports the abolition of government-sanctioned private ownership and private earnings in favour of making all property legally public, and therefore solely the responsibility of the state and/or the community.

Instances of syndicalism in power, during the Spanish Revolution or the 1956 Hungarian Revolution rapidly approach the economic organisation of communism, often within weeks of syndicalists seizing control of social production.

Syndicalists often form alliances with other workers' movements, including socialism, communism, and anarchism.

See here for more information.

Key Reading:
Thought of Karl Marx by David McLellan
The Life and Ideas of Robert Owen by A.L. Morton
The Communist Manifesto by Karl Marx, et al
Selected Works of Mao Tse-Tung: The Third Revolutionary War Period by Mao Tse-Tung, Zedong Mao
Essenti al Works of Lenin : "What is to Be Done?" and Other Writings by Vladimir Ilyich Lenin

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A Communist state is a state governed by a single political party which declares its allegiance to the principles of Marxism-Leninism. The term Communist state originated from the fact that most of the states in question were or are run by parties that called themselves "Communist Party of [country]". However, most of these states called themselves socialist, since in Marxist political theory, socialism is the intermediate stage in reaching communism, a final stage in which the state essentially ceases to exist and where the populace will own all or most things in common. Numerous socialists and social democrats rejected historical Communist states viewing them as representing a distortion or rejection of socialist values; Trotskyists became especially opposed to the official ideology of the Soviet Union following Joseph Stalin's consolidation of power.

Alternative terms for a "Communist state" include "Communist Party-run state" and "Marxist-Leninist state". Libertarian socialists (anarchists) often use terms such as "State socialism" or even "State capitalism", expressing their opinion that the State is incompatible with real socialism.

North Korea

North Korea, known officially as the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK; Korean: Chosŏn Minjujuŭi Inmin Konghwaguk; Chosŏngŭl: 조선민주주의인민공화국; Hanja: 朝鮮民主主義人民共和國), is a country in eastern Asia, covering the northern half of the peninsula of Korea. To the south it borders South Korea with which it formed a single nation until 1948. Its northern border is predominantly with the People's Republic of China, and a small section with Russia. Locally and in mainland China, it is more commonly called Pukchosŏn ("North Chosŏn"; 북조선; 北朝鮮), a name that associates the country with the Joseon Dynasty. Bukhan ("North Han"; 북한; 北韓) is commonly used in South Korea.

See here for more information.

Laos

The Lao People's Democratic Republic is a landlocked country in southeast Asia, bordered by Myanmar (commonly known in the west as Burma) and the People's Republic of China to the northwest, Vietnam to the east, Cambodia to the south, and Thailand to the west. The term Lao is most frequently used to refer to the dominant language and people of Laos. It is also a Romanised form of the word Laos in the Lao language (ລາວ). It is sometimes used in English to refer to the country as well, but romanisation standards hold that "Laos" is the preferred spelling. The country is also sometimes called the Land of A Million Elephants, a translation of the name of its predecessor, Lan Xang.

See here for more information.

Republic of Cuba

The Republic of Cuba is an Island in the eastern Caribbean that lies at the confluence of the Caribbean Sea, the Gulf of Mexico and the Atlantic Ocean. To the north are found the United States and the Bahamas, to the west Mexico, to the southwest the Cayman Islands and Jamaica, and to the southeast Haiti.

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Socialist Republic of Vietnam

The Socialist Republic of Vietnam is a country in Southeast Asia. Situated in eastern Indochina, it borders China, Laos, Cambodia, and the South China Sea.

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The People's Republic of China

The People's Republic of China (PRC), commonly referred to as China, is a state in East Asia. Since its founding in 1949, it has been led by the Communist Party of China (CPC). It is the world's most populous country, with a population of over 1.3 billion people, most of whom are classified as the Han Chinese ethnicity. It is the largest country in area in East Asia and the fourth largest (www.cia.gov...) in the world, after Russia, Canada, and the United States. The PRC borders 14 countries: Afghanistan, Bhutan, Myanmar/Burma, India, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Laos, Mongolia, Nepal, North Korea, Pakistan, Russia, Tajikistan and Vietnam. Although it officially remains a communist state, the PRC has considerably privatised its economy in the past three decades. Politically, it remains a one-party authoritarian state from its true communist days.

The PRC claims sovereignty over but has never controlled Taiwan and some neighbouring islands, which are controlled by the Republic of China. The PRC considers those areas as parts of itself, an eternally complete and indivisible country. This claim is controversial with the ROC considering itself an independent state.

The term "mainland China" is sometimes used to denote the area under the PRC's rule, usually excluding the two Special Administrative Regions, Hong Kong and Macau. The PRC is sometimes also referred to as "Red China", especially by its political opponents and critics, in reference to the association between the colour red and communism.

See here for more information.

The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics

The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR) (Russian: Сою́з Сове́тских Социалисти́ческих Респу́блик (СССР) ; tr.: Soyuz Sovetskikh Sotsialisticheskikh Respublik (SSSR)), also called the Soviet Union (Сове́тский Сою́з; tr.: Sovetsky Soyuz), was a state in much of the northern region of Eurasia that existed from 1922 until its dissolution in 1991. The Russian Federation is widely accepted as the Soviet Union's successor state in diplomatic affairs. Its formation was the culmination of the 1917 Russian Revolution, which overthrew Tsar Nicholas II. Officially (according to its Constitution) it was a socialist state, but the political organization of the country was defined by the only permitted political party, the Communist Party of the Soviet Union. Probably due to this reason it was sometimes called "communist state" in Western countries. The territory of the Soviet Union varied, and in its most recent times approximately corresponded to that of the late Imperial Russia, with notable exclusions of Poland and Finland.

See here for more information.

Key Reading:

The Waning of the Communist State: Economic Origins of Political Decline in China and Hungary (Studies on China, 21) by Andrew G. Walder
Reconstructing Twentieth-Century China: State Control, Civil Society, and National Identity (Studies on Contemporary China) by Kjeld Erik Brdsgaard (Editor), et al
States and Social Revolutions : A Comparative Analysis of France, Russia and China by Theda Skocpol



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reply posted on 16-6-2005 @ 07:47 PM by EastCoastKid


Lots of excellent thoughts, links.

Lots of views. (Way to go Odium. )

Jump in people. Learn from this man. Learn about your world.



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reply posted on 16-6-2005 @ 08:11 PM by Odium


Eurocommunism was an attempt in the 1970s by various European communist parties to widen their appeal by embracing public sector middle-class workers, and new social movements such as feminism and gay liberation and rejecting unquestioning support of the Soviet Union, and express more clearly their fidelity to democratic institutions.

It was precisely those Communist parties most strongly entrenched in their respective societies – notably the Italian Communist Party and the French Communist Party – that were most likely to adopt a Eurocommunist line, while smaller and more marginal parties remained correspondingly more dependent upon the patronage of Moscow.

The Communist Party of Spain and its Catalan referent, the United Socialist Party of Catalonia, had already been committed to the liberal possibilist politics of the Popular Front during the Spanish Civil War, and it emerged from the dictatorship of Franco following an essentially Eurocommunist line. The Communist parties of Netherlands and Austria also showed distinct Eurocommunist tendencies.

Western European communists came to Eurocommunism via a variety of routes. For some it was their direct experience of feminist and similar action. For others its was a reaction to the political events of the Soviet Union, at the apogee of what Gorbachev later called the Era of Stagnation. This process was accelerated after the events of 1968, particularly the crushing of the Prague Spring.

The politics of détente also played a part. With war less likely, Western communists were under less pressure to parrot Soviet orthodoxy yet also wanted to engage with a rise in western proletarian militancy such as Italy's hot autumn and Britain's shop stewards' movement.

In spite of its name, Eurocommunist ideas won at least partial acceptance outside of the continent. Prominent parties influenced by its outside of Europe were Movement for Socialism (Venezuela), Japanese Communist Party and the Communist Party of Australia.

But Eurocommunism was in many ways only a staging post. Some - principally the Italians - became social democrats, others, like the Dutch toyed with green politics, while the French party during the 1980's reverted to a more pro-Soviet stance.

Eurocommunism was officialized in 1977, when Enrico Berlinguer of the Italian Communist Party (PCI), Santiago Carrillo of the Spanish Communist Party (PCE) and Georges Marchais of the French Communist Party (PCF) met in Madrid and laid out the fundamental lines of the "new way". The PCI in particular, however, had been developing an independent line from Moscow for many years prior, which had already been exhibited in 1968, when the party refused to support the Soviet invasion of Prague. In 1975 the PCI and the PCE made a declaration regarding the "march toward socialism" to be done in "peace and freedom". In 1976 in Moscow, Berlinguer, in front of 5,000 Communist delegates, had spoken of a "pluralistic system" (translated by the interpreter as "multiform"), and described PCI's intentions to build "a socialism that we believe necessary and possible only in Italy".

Before the end of the Cold War pushed practically all Leftist parties in Europe on the defensive and made neoliberal reforms the order of the day, many Eurocommunist parties split, with the Right (such as Democratici di Sinistra or Iniciativa per Catalunya) adopting social democracy more whole-heartedly, while the Left strove to preserve some identifiably Communist positions (compare the Partito della Rifondazione Comunista or PSUC viu/Communist Party of Spain).

Key Figures:
Enrico Berlinguer
Santiago Carrillo
Georges Marchais

Key Reading:
Eurocommunism and Eurosocialism: the Left Confronts Modernity by Bernarde Brown



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reply posted on 17-6-2005 @ 06:30 AM by Odium


Islamic socialism is a term coined by various Muslim leaders to counter the demand at home for a more spiritual form of socialism. Problems arise for Muslim socialists when Islamic scholars declare them to be atheist. It is for this reason that they tend to create a new brand of socialism they call Islamic socialism.

One of the very notable persons in this context was the Pakistani leader of Pakistan People's Party, Zulfikar Ali Bhutto (1928 to 1979). He promoted Islamic socialism in order to calm down the people after the Islamic scholars declared him and his system to be atheist.

Scholars have highlighted the similarities between the Islamic economic system and socialist theory, e.g., both are against unearned income. Islam does allow private ownership but natural resources and large industries are owned collectively.

Other notable proponents of Islamic socialism include
Gamal Abdel Nasser
Muammar al-Qaddafi
Ahmed Hassan al-Bakr

Key Reading:
Iqbal and the concept of Islamic socialism by Allahbukhsh Karimbukhsh Brohi
Islamic Socialism: What It Implies by Mohammad Muslehuddin



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reply posted on 17-6-2005 @ 06:56 AM by Odium


Autonomism, or Autonomist Marxism is a left wing political movement and theory. Autonomism (autonomia) emerged in Italy in the 1960s from workerist (operaismo) communism. Later, post-Marxist and lifestylist anarchist tendencies became significant after influence from Situationism, the failure of the Italian revolutionary era in the 1970s and the emergence of a number of important theorists including Antonio Negri. It influenced the German and Dutch autonomen, the worldwide Social Center movement, and today is influential in Italy, the United States and some other English speaking countries. Those who describe themselves as 'autonomists' now vary from workerist marxists to lifestylist post-Marxists or (post-)anarchists.

Autonomist theory, in contrast to other forms of Marxism, emphasises the ability of the working class to force changes to the organisation of the capitalist system independent of the state, trade unions or political parties. It is less concerned with party political organisation, and with theoretical or doctrinal consistency, than other types of Marxist thought; instead it focuses on spontaneous action and continual development of its theoretical tools. Early theorists were Mario Tronti, Antonio Negri, Sergio Bologna and others in Italy in the 1970s. It has influenced Marxist academics including Harry Cleaver, John Holloway Steve Wright, and Nick Dyer-Witheford.

Autonomism may also refer to the Dutch anarchist Autonomen movement from the 1960s which concentrated on squatting, or to the German Autonomen squats of the 1980s.

Due to the inspiration provided by the Autonomist marxist and Autonomen movements for some of the revolutionary left, some English language leftist groups with a fundamentally libertarian socialist bent describe themselves as Autonomists, for example, the British WOMBLES.

Key People:
Antonio Negri
Harry M. Cleaver, Jr.
Nick Dyer-Witheford

Key Reading:
Storming Heaven : Class Composition and Struggle in Italian Autonomist Marxism by Steve Wright
Time for Revolution by Antonio Negri, Matteo Mandarini
Reading Capital Politically by Harry Cleaver



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reply posted on 19-6-2005 @ 03:28 PM by Odium


I hope this helps people, at the present moment I have no more information to add to this thread but if anyone has any questions to do with Socialims, Communism, or any other parts of Socialism please post them here so I am able to help you and we can keep all the information and questions on one thread.

Hope it helps.
Odium



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reply posted on 20-6-2005 @ 04:04 PM by EastCoastKid


Do any college credits come with completion of reading this, Odium?

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reply posted on 20-6-2005 @ 04:37 PM by Odium


If only my courses were that easy? Got 4 reports to do over the summer, 3 over 3000 words. :| Although one is on the Korean War and the Medias role after that others I get to do as a study and make them up.



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reply posted on 1-10-2005 @ 07:03 PM by sminkeypinkey


Excellent work Odium, have a way above for the sterling efforts matey.



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reply posted on 2-10-2005 @ 01:24 PM by Odium



Originally posted by sminkeypinkey
Excellent work Odium, have a way above for the sterling efforts matey.


Thank you mate, glad you liked them.

I have two more articles to write on modern Socialism, however I have not got one of the books I need and I can't find the article online.



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reply posted on 31-10-2005 @ 10:07 PM by entropy+



Originally posted by sminkeypinkey
Excellent work Odium, have a way above for the sterling efforts matey.


I second that.



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reply posted on 1-11-2005 @ 11:48 AM by Odium



Originally posted by entropy+

Originally posted by sminkeypinkey
Excellent work Odium, have a way above for the sterling efforts matey.


I second that.


Thank you for the vote.

Do you have any questions about Socialism I can help you with?



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reply posted on 1-11-2005 @ 06:44 PM by entropy+


Yes, yes I do.

how do we get this revolution rolling?



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reply posted on 1-11-2005 @ 11:15 PM by Shaione


I'm jumping on the bandwagon. Nice work! I'm saving this to read later.

Man, where were you over the summer when I had to do a paper of Marx and Weber.



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reply posted on 2-11-2005 @ 11:57 AM by Odium



Originally posted by entropy+
Yes, yes I do.

how do we get this revolution rolling?


I wish I could tell you, I really do. That is the one thing in my whole life [19] years, I have never found an answer too...however, I do think a New-Socialist ideology needs to be brought about. One that links up Government Structer and the Economy together... however it isn't easy to work on. It's taking a lot of my freetime up but once I have it done I plan on posting it on this page for people to see.



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reply posted on 3-4-2006 @ 01:30 PM by Odium



Originally posted by Shaione
Man, where were you over the summer when I had to do a paper of Marx and Weber.


Weber had some interesting things to say, the best evaluation of him and his work is to look at the German Government, the Treaty of Versailles and the Weimar Constitution. It's a very unknown fact, but he argued for Article 48 which was how Hitler gained such power. It is also interesting to know he was a large supporter of Capitalism, although in his works that doesn't come across.



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reply posted on 22-7-2006 @ 09:13 AM by infinite


You have voted Odium for the Way Above Top Secret award. You have used all of your votes for this month.

Excellent thread with great information.



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reply posted on 15-3-2007 @ 07:29 AM by yanchek


Very good job Odium. I want to add something to this thread if you don't mind.

Titoism

Elements of Titoism are characterized by policies and practices based on the principle that in each country, the means of attaining ultimate communist goals must be dictated by the conditions of that particular country, rather than by a pattern set in another country. During Tito’s era, this specifically meant that the communist goal should be pursued independently of (and often in opposition to) the policies of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.
The term was originally meant as a pejorative, and was labelled by Moscow as a heresy during the period of tensions between the Soviet Union and Yugoslavia known as the Informbiro period from 1948 to 1955.
Unlike the rest of East Europe, which fell under Stalin's influence post-World War II, Yugoslavia, due to the strong leadership of Marshal Tito and the fact that the Yugoslav Partisans liberated Yugoslavia with only limited help from the Red Army, remained independent from Moscow. It became the only country in the Balkans to resist pressure from Moscow to join the Warsaw Pact and remained "socialist, but independent" right up until the collapse of Soviet communism in the late 1980s and early 1990s. Throughout his time in office, Tito prided himself on Yugoslavia's independence from Russia, with Yugoslavia never accepting full membership of the Comecon and Tito's open rejection of many aspects of Stalinism as the most obvious manifestations of this.
The Soviets and their satellite states usually accused Yugoslavia of Trotskyism and Fascism, charges loosely based on Tito's samoupravljanje (self-management) and the theory of associated labor (profit sharing policies and worker-owned industries initiated by him, Milovan Đilas, and Edvard Kardelj in 1950). In these, the Soviets saw (or pretended to see) the seeds of Council Communism or even Corporatism.

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His main opponent was Milovan Djilas. He was widely regarded as Tito's eventual successor, and was about to become President of Yugoslavia in 1954. However, from October 1953 to January 1954 he wrote 19 articles for the Borba journal, where he demanded more democracy in the party and in the country. Tito and the other leading Yugoslav communists saw his arguments as a threat for their positions, and in January 1954 Đilas was expelled from the government and stripped of all party positions for his criticism. He resigned from the Communist Party soon afterwards. In December 1954 he gave an interview to the New York Times in which he said that Yugoslavia was now ruled by "reactionaries". For this he was brought to trial and convicted.

In 70s and 80s alot of people from former EEC came in Yugoslavia to study our Federalism so here is some interesting info for EU ATS members if they want to know where is the craddle of modern EU.

publius.oxfordjournals.org..." target="_blank" class="postlink">Communal Federalism

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Josip Broz Tito
Milovan Djilas
Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia



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