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Just becuse you do not accept the Bible as Truth doesn't mean it isn't so !
On the contrary. Everyone that I have ever met that has studied the bible in it's totality would completley disagree with your mentality of the Word Of God.
The Book of Revelation not being a book of Prophecy ? Please explain your thoughts or ideas ?
Originally posted by Alexander Tau
Now like all religious texts there is some history in there, certain major cities did exist, certain Countries, and so on. But it is not a historical document and these settings serve as little more than anchors to put the otherwise total fiction of the stories in a real context.
So what this all means is that the foundation that the theory that Aliens are creatures associated with the Bible is shaky at best, and really just looking for a simple answer. A way to use faith, which has a proper place in society, to find answers to questions that are beyond faith's scope.
[edit on 6/17/05 by Alexander Tau]
Have you personally read the bible in it's totality and studied it in greek and in hebrew ?
Just asking because you mentioned that your sources are primarily internet driven
Have you happen to have read any pro-books by any scholors or authors ? Proving the validity of the bible ? If so, can you please name the titles and authors for my own research.
I would like to make a couple of recommendations that are a MUST when researching the validity of Gods word. No matter what satan has tried to do through mans distortion does NOT take away the validity and power of Gods Word.
Originally posted by Alexander Tau
[I read everything available on every subject I study. It has been a while, but go back a few years and if it was out and available I probably read it. Most of my work was through Libraries but I did get things other ways.
Man wrote these words (the bible), and has been messing about with them ever since. Not one addition has been for the good of mankind, each and every one has been to strengthen control and to counter other schools of thought.
The real point of this thread is about Aliens and who they might be. All I am trying to say with all of this is that you cannot use the Bible to understand anything other than the Christian faith. It is not a record of history and most of what is there is based on perceptions that we do not accept today.
Do you ever think about the people of 100 CE? Do you realize what they believed about life. Except for simple things like making wine, or mudbricks, we know they knew next to nothing about how life really works.
This was before even the concept of Science existed.
So we know they were not very bright (compared to today of course) and we know that they did not understand all that much. But we trust what was written then to answer the Ultimate Questions? That is just beyond absurd, it is a child-like as they were.
I remember one book, still have it around somewhere. It is about Ezeqal (really misspelled there) and the possibility that what he reported on a space craft of some sort. I will grant that it is possible that this is the actual story of what happened, but I have seen some other suggestions that are not only more plausable but fit the text much better.
But even if you accept that the story is about a UFO, there is NOTHING there to learn. The person doing the 'reporting' has no basis for any sort of judgement so we cannot use that to learn anything except that UFOs have been visiting for sometime.
Have you ever heard of the Harrier (a VTOL plane in use my the US and GB)? The answer was 'no'. Does this mean what he saw was not a UFO, of course not. But what it does mean is that his knowledge of things that fly is limitied and that increases the odds that what he saw has a normal explaination.
Anything you get out of the Bible is a matter of interpretation, nothing is clear and obvious. It is possible to spin all sorts of ideas out of that book, most of which have nothing whatsoever to do with why they were written or what the stories are really about.
Have you read the bible verse by verse interpreting words knowing whether written originally in Greek or Hebrew then searching for the true meaning? Ever heard of Strong's concordance?
I don't mean to pick on you but I don't get it.. Did you get this form hearsay?? Are you talking OT or NT?-(above parenthesis mine)
Who says the bible is based on perceptions we don't have today??? Speaking for your peer group or all people in general? Ever read proverbs?
No, of course not, that's why religions evolve.
Harriers have been around a long time. They do not come to an abrupt halt then go vertical that fast.
Funny I used to think the same thing..Please keep an open mind and dig deeper..you might like what you find...and not all that condemnation stuff, either
You mentioned the Book Of Revelation was “Mystical and used for deep study “ ??? It’s a lot deeper than that.
Let me just say hypothetically: If you new of a scripture that was taken out or left out or like you mentioned the context of a scripture that seems to not be in context or is but it’s questionable ? Would that one scripture discount God and His message of truth ? Would it interfere with the Gospels and the validity of Christ ? Does it or could it affect the plan of salvation ? Can you see where I am going with this ?
You mentioned the “'lets strengthen the work ethic' as we make our new bible. “ Not sure what the relevance or validity of this is. Can you be more specific ? Another words was this in the reading material of the History of the King James bible ? Or where else did you find this. Just curious ? Like I mentioned before “Work Ethic “ Wouldn’t have any conflict of the message of Christ and how it would relate to following Christ ?
Not sure where you read the above statement ? But they didn’t just pop the devil thing in the bible last minute. Quit contrary to what you said the whole Bible both Old and New Testament is about the devil, spiritual darkness, the spiritual, The forces of evil, The prince and power of the airs. He has many more names than this in the scriptures.
Again- It sounds like you have read some about the bible and it’s history but haven’t read it and studied it too much ? Correct me if I am wrong ?