Permenant Magnet motor, page 3

I hate to be a downer but i notice everyone seems to be overlooking what thousands that have tried this before have discovered. The nsnsns magnetic placement sounds good becuase of the opposing forces however at the same time you have the non opposing sides wanting to pull themselves together which again sounds great but it creates drag. The only reason these novelty motors work is the intial force given to get them going then decline and return kick in. As the motor spins the drag slows the initial speed further and further down until the motor stops. Any load on a motor such as this would speed this process up because it would increase the drag. Previous inventors relieased this and began to think about how they could eliminate this drag and in doing so they began experimenting with electromagnets because they could turn them on and off in a sequential order thus making the motor spin and eliminating the drag. However if you end up going down this road ill go ahead and tell you congradulations you have invented what is commonly referred to as a conventional motor.

As a kid ( as early as age 8 ) i too began looking into this aspect and i came up with this same wonderful design and i eventually started playing with electomagnets and it too lead me to the wonderful invention of a common day motor. ( I always told my dad i was born a few hundred years to late ) I even experimented with small hobby motors , such as the ones that used to come in the toy stompers ( google stomper for those of you to young or to old to know what im talking about ) Anyway if you hooked to stomper motors together and gave one an initial charge to start running then removed the charge the first motor would then continue to power the second. I thought i had discovered perpetual motion but this is when i learned about decline and return , in a short amount of time both motors eventually stopped.I will say this little experiment as a kid did later in life produce some useful knowledege becuase it taught me that most motors are also generators too depending on thier wrappings. An example of this being useful is my homemade phase converter used to give my machine shop 3 phase power out of normal old 220. Quite simply i took an old 5hp 3 phase motor and i get it spinning using a 110 motor , once its to speed i hit the motor with 220 and it starts running, once the 3 phase motor is running it starts generating a 3rd phase ( granted a slightly wild one ) From that generated 3rd phase i can run any smaller 3 phase motors such as the 3hp motor on my mill , but notice how the motors have to be smaller then the first motor this is again due to decline and return.

For those of you that still think im wrong and wish to keep trying i will say there is one thing ive noticed that all the other previous inventors seem to have over looked. The laws of decline and return are pretty simple , however at the same time even if you are loosing energy in one place your gaining it somewhere else. Energy never dissapears it just changes form , be it heat from friction or whatever the energy is still there its just in another form. When the energy is transformed it becomes useless in current designes however if one could figure out a way to utilize the converted energy then they might have something.

By the way the person with the design that needs something machined in order to finish there idea ill do it for you if you would like. If the idea looks feasible that is .............