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A Deathbed Prophecy Of King Edward The Confessor~

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posted on Jun, 13 2005 @ 08:22 AM
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“Just now two monks stood before me, whom I had once known very well when I was a young man in Normandy, men of great sanctity, and for many years now relieved of earthly cares.
And they addressed me with a message from God.
‘Since,’
they said,
‘those who have climbed to the highest offices in the kingdom of England, the earls, the bishops and abbots, and all those in holy orders, are not what they seem to be,
but, on the contrary,
are servants of the devil,
on a year and one day after the day of your death God has delivered all this kingdom, cursed by Him, into the hands of the enemy, and devils shall come through all this land with fire and sword and the havoc of war.
’ Then I said to them,
‘I will show God’s design to the people, and the forgiveness of God shall have mercy upon the penitents.
For He had mercy on the people of Nineveh, when they repented on hearing the Divine indignation.’ But they said,
‘These will not repent,
nor will the forgiveness of God come to pass for them.’
‘And what,’ I asked, ‘shall happen?
And when can a remission of this great indignation be hoped for?’
‘At that time,’ they answered,
‘when a green tree,
if cut down in the middle of its trunk,
and the part cut off carried the space of three furlongs from the stock,
shall be joined again to the trunk,
by itself and without the hand of man or any sort of stake,
and begin once more to push leaves and bear fruit from the old love of its uniting sap,
then first can a remission of these great ills be hoped for.”



King Edward died on January 5, 1066.
One year and one day after his death, on January 6, 1067, the Roman Catholic William the Conqueror was crowned king of England in Westminster Abbey.
Then began a terrible campaign of pillage and bloodshed by the Conqueror against the English people, which culminated in the pseudo-council of Winchester in 1070, when papal legates deposed the Orthodox Archbishop Stigand, who had refused to crown William, and placed the Roman Catholic Lanfranc in his place. On October 15, 1072, the last English Orthodox bishop, Ethelric of Durham, after anathematizing the Pope, died in prison at Westminster, and the grace of the priesthood left the English land, in accordance with King Edward’s prophecy. The last part of this prophecy remains to be fulfilled…......

IX
helen

St. Edward The Confessor, King Of England

EARLY YEARS

The holy King Edward was born near the beginning of the eleventh century. His father was the English King Ethelred, and his mother – the Norman princess Emma. When Queen Emma was pregnant with him, “all of the men of the country,” as his earliest, anonymous biographer records, “took an oath that if a man child should come forth as the fruit of her labours, they would await in him their lord and king who would rule over the whole race of the English.”......
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posted on Jun, 13 2005 @ 09:08 AM
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I do not understand the last part of the prophecy. What do you make of it?



posted on Jun, 13 2005 @ 09:38 AM
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I always assumed that he declared Harold as his successor (instead of the rightful heir, his grandson, Edgar the AEthling) on his deathbed.



Originally posted by helen670

When Queen Emma was pregnant with him, “all of the men of the country,” as his earliest, anonymous biographer records, “took an oath that if a man child should come forth as the fruit of her labours, they would await in him their lord and king who would rule over the whole race of the English.”......



At the time the "English" tended to refer to the Danes who had essentially invaded the country after the collapse of the Roman Empire, so when referring to the "men of the country taking an oath" who does this imply? The Danes, the Celts, what was left of the Picts, or the Romano Britons? Just curious really.

Also interesting are the chronicles suggesting that he was a weak, but violent man and that his reputation for saintliness was overstated, possibly a sham perpetrated by the monks of Westminster in the twelfth century.


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posted on Jun, 14 2005 @ 12:25 AM
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The last part of the prophecy is this.....
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‘And what,’ I asked, ‘shall happen?
And when can a remission of this great indignation be hoped for?’
‘At that time,’ they answered,
‘when a green tree,
if cut down in the middle of its trunk,
and the part cut off carried the space of three furlongs from the stock,
shall be joined again to the trunk,
by itself and without the hand of man or any sort of stake,
and begin once more to push leaves and bear fruit from the old love of its uniting sap,
then first can a remission of these great ills be hoped for.”

I do know that the prophecy speaks of the Roman Catholics replacing their own on the priesthood to those that God had placed......Being the continuation of the One Holy Catholic(not Roman Catholic....Universal)Church....
Since the church had split in 1054/the great Schism......people understood that the Church was not as it was.....

Im not going to interpret this with my own words.......Ill try and get more info....

IX
helen

The Fall Of Orthodox England

Vladimir Moss

It is true what I say: should the Christian faith weaken the kingship will
immediately totter.

Archbishop Wulfstan of York, The Institutes of Polity, 4 (1023).

quote/// On another occasion, as Ailred of Rievaulx tells the story,
the king attended the service for the consecration of a church at Havering in Essex.
As he was coming out of the church, a beggar met him and asked for alms. Edward did not have any money on him at the time; but since he never liked to send beggars away empty-handed, he gave him the costly ring which was on his finger.
Some time later, some English pilgrims were in trouble near Bethlehem in the Holy Land. A beggar came up to them and asked them what the matter was. When they had explained it to him,
he helped them.
Then he gave them a ring and asked them to give it to their king in England, with a message from St. John that for his chaste life he was to inherit the joys of Paradise in six months’ time.
Edward received the message with joy, realizing that the beggar to whom he had given the ring was St. John the Evangelist and Theologian.
And in six months’ time he reposed in peace.[119]

The ring was found again when St. Edward’s tomb at Westminster was opened in 1102. A sweet fragrance filled the church, and the body was found to be completely incorrupt. On the finger of his hand was the ring.[120]

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posted on Jun, 18 2005 @ 12:40 AM
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Just looking at the supposed text from the Confessor himself...

It looks like it's saying that the church that was existing in england at the time of his death was corrupt and that God was sending the Normans to knock England back into shape. Since it drw England closer to Rome, that would seem to be an endorsement of the Catholic Church. The Norman soldiers, in that vision, almost seem like the vengeful agents of god.

Again, just looking at the text you gave, the chutch in england that was in existence before the norman invasion is the one that looks bad.




 
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