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posted on Jun, 13 2005 @ 01:25 AM
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Here's a quick list of areas you could get into which may lead you to a job dealing with areas of secrecy that would expose some of the Governments secrets. Some may seem redundant but that's OK, it's just a brainstorm and if we just lay out ideas and areas that have come up before, we might be able to narrow it down to a more defined list and then explore those areas in more detail.
All the reports of Aliens and secret bases etc have come from people that had regular jobs and positions but who either specialised in a certain area or were moved into a top secret position for what ever reason and later decided to tell all.
Of course these jobs would entail a 'death for talking' type policy (but if you have nothing better to live for, what a way to go!).

Anyway, add to this list or remove from this list. If we put our thinking caps on then we might find a loop hole or a 'hole in the fence'.

1. I.D. manufacturing company(s)
- Which company(s) makes Military I.D's?
i) Which bases do they service?
ii) What skills are necessary to produce I.Ds?
iii) Do they make them inhouse or under contract?

- What procedures are put in place when creating I.D's?
i) How do they check that an (example) Ultra-7 ID hasn't been cloned/copied?
ii) How do they deliver these top level I.D's?


2. Film/Video specialists
- Which companies service military bases, CIA, NASA, Airforce etc?
i) Are they inhouse or subcontracted?

- Which areas of post-processing would be likely to see things?
i) Dark Rooms? Digital processing?
ii) Image enhancement/Analysis - Computer imaging?
iii) Archiving specialists? (film to digital etc)

3. Security Services
- Which companies are hired for security of Areas such as Area 51/Dulce etc?
i) What qualifications do you need to be one of these security guards?
ii) Who does the company answer too?
iii) What information / visuals are these companies privy too?

4. Airforce/Army/NASA/Navy etc
- Areas of military service that can lead to jobs in top level areas?
i) Computer Networking/Admin/Maintainance etc
ii) Airforce Pilot, special interests, keeness etc in new craft/technology.
iii) Position in Army to be delegated to top level security?

5. Construction/Trade etc
- Which companies get construction jobs?
i) Who do they employ? - Builders, plumbers, electricians etc
ii) Who authorises/pays the contracts?

- What jobs would be required on a military base?
i) A secret or top level security base would need a lot of everday jobs filled to keep the place running, where do they employ those cleaners, cooks, plumbers, electricians, builders, repair persons.
ii) Specialist/Industrial Cleaners
iii) Security installers who would have to monitor and maintain security equipment etc


What else? I'm sure there would be A LOT of everday positions that could lead you to a top level security job. A lot of it would be in your keeness and loyalty to your higher ranked officials that would move you up the line and expose you to positions of higher trust.





[edit on 13-6-2005 by TheShroudOfMemphis]




posted on Jun, 13 2005 @ 01:34 AM
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Do you think anyone here is in one of these positions?



posted on Jun, 13 2005 @ 01:57 AM
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Originally posted by PhilAlfred
Do you think anyone here is in one of these positions?


I don't know who does what here but when you think about it, you could be in an everday job that leads you to inside knowledge. I'm just thinking in areas that don't get brought up. Why believe a guy that apparently worked in an Alien-human co-op base for years if we can't trace any possible route taken for these people to recieve their job positions.

I've read numbers upto 150,000 people working in one underground lab! There has to be hundreds of positions available to regular people that would either live in those bases for years or be under a major contract with major punishments. Where do you get these jobs? I'd work in an underground base to know this stuff, much better than some crappy everyday job.

I wouldn't be surprised if this whole .com is run or monitored by data collectors who look out for what we know and how far advanced our research has reached. It would be hard to monitor public secracy and spread propaganda to keep people off the scent without knowing where the conspiracy community was in the first place. There's also a lot of people throughout these boards who for some reason refuse to acknowledge any kind of conspiracy (espeacially regarding the War on Terror) and you have to ask yourself, why join a conspiracy website then?

Mainly thou, it's the people that have come forward with information like the Dulce papers and stuff about thousands of people working in these labs yet how the hell do you get a job in one of these places? Who's involved in building the places etc? There has to be a loop hole somewhere and regular people would have to be employed in some capacity.





[edit on 13-6-2005 by TheShroudOfMemphis]



posted on Jun, 13 2005 @ 02:38 AM
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I am in the United States Air Force myself. I don't know much information in terms of any thing too Top Secret nor am I in postion to reveal much of anything. But I do know enough to know 'what really goes on' or there lack of. As to how people would more than likely get those Top Secret positions/ Military ID's, etc, I know, but I can't tell you. This is the sort of stuff I can't even be hinting/talking about or else. It comes down to my job, my life, my family, and overall societal status. If I were to reveal the slightest detail (above is no where near slight enough to be considered classified just because I revealed the fact that I am in the U.S.A.F. and I know some stuff) because much punishment will come of it.

I can't even fathom going against the government/military 'right now'. When it comes down to a more rebellius day and age (MARSHALL LAW anyone?) than I will upbring the knowledge I came to this planet for. But UNtil then, all is well, and I would rather keep my job, life, and societal status all in check. If you have any personal questions, you can U2U me, but don't expect any A-TYPICAL answers. Thats all for now.

U.S. Air Force
Airman Eric Adamo



posted on Jun, 13 2005 @ 03:25 AM
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Originally posted by 2Super7E123
I am in the United States Air Force myself. I don't know much information in terms of any thing too Top Secret nor am I in postion to reveal much of anything. But I do know enough to know 'what really goes on' or there lack of. As to how people would more than likely get those Top Secret positions/ Military ID's, etc, I know, but I can't tell you. This is the sort of stuff I can't even be hinting/talking about or else. It comes down to my job, my life, my family, and overall societal status. If I were to reveal the slightest detail (above is no where near slight enough to be considered classified just because I revealed the fact that I am in the U.S.A.F. and I know some stuff) because much punishment will come of it.



That's cool, i wouldnt give up info for no reason either for the sake of a message board.

Sounds like having a family (collateral) is a start into getting you into higher positions. I guess you wouldn't get to shake an Aliens hand in a government base if you had no family or friends and didn't care if telling the world meant your death. The people that controll this informational flow need to know you have a weakness to stay under their thumb because contracts are made to be broken and the government would know all about that. A signature wouldn't be enough for them.

If things start turning bad thou, it will be the dissenters that will be akin to the new founding fathers of a peoples revolution.

If you can get me a job in Dulce working with the Aliens then let me know, thou i doubt i'd pass their testing proceedures, they'd find out pretty quick i have a personality that would have trouble keeping a secret and i'm too inquisitive, i'd would probably just get stuck in the desert miles from anything.




posted on Jun, 13 2005 @ 04:09 AM
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.......

P.S. As for the list in terms of "Possible Ways to Get 'Inside' " , it is as exact as can be in terms of the general here "says" of how one would become a person to know such Top Secret information. As ironic as it may seem, when talk amongst groups of people about such Alien/UFO information, they wouldn't call it Top Secret nor would they call it classified, its more or less likely natural to them/-a way of life.

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You're right about that. Its not worth the life threatening risks, even for myself, revealing the minimal (maximum to some) information I know. It wouldn't be (IM]possible (yet) for me to get you in such a facility (Dulce). Even if I were, they would find out quick, the motives of people such as ourselves that we would threaten to reveal ALL the information. The funny thing is, would the brainwashing last long enough for any of us NOT to reveal what you seem to know? ...And in turn, what one seems to know, can seem like complete B.S. when faced against the insane realness of society.



posted on Jun, 13 2005 @ 08:16 AM
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Do you think anyone here is in one of these positions?


There are a number of past and present members who've been in or are in such positions. However, if you knew the possible penalties of violating signed secrecy agreements, you'd realize that they aren't going to break such an agreement to satisfy our curiosity...


Heck, I was just in a trainee program, and my agreement expires in 2011....but the info I was exposed to isn't anything more interesting than CIA budgetary figures circa 1991, etc.


Your best route would be through the military, serving in the intelligence arm of whatever service you join. Show a complete lack of interest in the alien issue, show an ability to follow orders to the letter, and keep your mouth shut. The psych eval for the SCI clearance would pretty much root out most would be exposers....so you'd really have to be dedicated to it to do so.

This was pretty much my intention a long while ago...but the trainee program was axed, and I had lost my taste for it then....as it was a bit late to go the service intel route. Time and time again though, the agency recruiter stated that as the best possible route to take to join and advance in the agency.



posted on Jun, 13 2005 @ 11:40 AM
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TheShroudOfMemphis et. al...

You are so close on how to bring disclosure - yet your still playing their game by their rules...

Perhaps if you "cheated" like them you would get what you needed.

Oh well - best not to stoop to their level I suppose...




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