Okay riley, let's take your last post step by step shall we?
To be honest.. I've never actually said that previously [search my posts].. I sited it as an example as usually I'd have to give an essay of around
twenty thousand words on why it's illogical and couldn't be bothered.. but accept my apologies if you believe our planet is only 6000 years old..
though I do personally believe it's an infantile notion. btw.. how is that trying to convert?.
So what you are saying, is that you have not posted the if someone says the world is only 6000 years old my telling them that that isf*&^
I also do not subscribe to0 the young earth theory. How is that trying to convert? Hmm please tell me where I have said that it was. I have said, and
which you proved in your posting, that instead of attempting to actually debate or rationalize, it for the nay sayers is easier to make a personal or
generalized comment that all are ignorant and or stupid or as you sayed f*&^ idiotic
quote: If someone here or anywhere else, were to say something that you do not agree with, instead of debasing them,
Yet you haven't actually tried to debase anything.
Okay you have me confused a bit on this. Maybe the following definition frfom answers.com will help you out.
de·base (dĭ-bās') pronunciation
tr.v., -based, -bas·ing, -bas·es.
To lower in character, quality, or value; degrade. See synonyms at adulterate, corrupt, degrade.
So your point being?
quote: Yet you haven't actually tried to debase anything. how about attempting to prove them wrong. Prove what wrong? You asked for atheist
opinions.. whats to prove?
Again, I believe that you have missed the point of the thread which is why an aethist get's pissed off (author's words) any time religion is
mentioned. If an aethiest or agnostic wishes to enter into a discussion that has a religious conectation or tone, instead using rational
"conversation" the non-believer goes off the deep end and as I earlier stated will resort to predjudicial (however it is spelt
May I remind you that you STARTED this thread with generalisations about atheists on a kneejerk reaction because you probably couldn't convert one
and had to vent somewhere. You asked for opinions from atheists.. [basically 'are they just afraid of conversion?'] yet haven't anwered any of the
points and I suspect you only dived on this trivial one because it's the only one you could argue without giving away your true opinions on
atheists.. which you've already made that quite clear anyway.
Let me dissuade you on a few things here.
1) I did not start the thread I have added to it.
2) My comments have not been either generalized nor done in a kneejerk reaction. There have been numerous threas on ATS the last few months where
derogatory and in some cases inflammatory comments have been made by both members as well as Mods / S-Mod's towards those who prfess a belief in any
3) Any opions that I have toward anyone of any group, have been backed, again, let me remind you of your first response to me.
4) Am I attempting to convert anyone? No, Nor has that ever been anything in what I have ever said either here in this thread nor in any other thread.
What I have said if you have not seen it yet, is that instead of conversing, those who hold no faith, tend to use inflammatory comments aginst those
who do have a professed faith.
You stated that I have already made my opion known about aethist. Is that correct? Well, How would you categorize your own viewpoint? Open-minded,
allow others their own beliefs? Look at your earlier posting here sir and your will see that your postings were quite opinonated.
Now to answer your questions 1 by1 since you have said that I have avoided answering them
You could only find a handul of posts that may show atheists are trying to convert christians etc [who will typically use facts to back their
views].. but I could find a thousand where atheists are told they are going to burn in hell and should convert. So what qualifies?
I as well can also show you where, both members as well as Mods have gone so far as to deny that freedom of speech should be allowed due to a subject
that had even a slight religious slant. If you will notice my mood. It says Me 2 Ignant. Why would I have that? I changed it once a Super Mod made a
statement not too long ago that said that all those of faith are either stupid or ignorant. So tell me what qualifies?
Teaching evolution or sex ed?
The instruction of both subjects should occur as education is the only defense against ignorance. I do add though that if and when a question by a
student is addressed to the teacher, that deals with either creationism or sex ed or evolution, the teacher should answer the question to the best of
their ability, descibe why a question is incorrect, inform the student where they can research the answer. In today's classrooms, such questions are
felt to be confrontational by the teachers.
or that adam and eve never existed?
That is like asking which came first the chicken or the egg. Mankind came from something. If you dig back far enough you will eventually find a common
source for all. If that is the biblical adam eve, doubtful.
or not teaching that a few million animals were squashed into a tiny boat?
Although there is something to this belief in that it is in civilizations around the world, is it wholy true, again doubtful. But as in many myths,
someway, they are found to hold a grain of truth. One day we will find that grain and be able to completely explain where this belief origionated
Or not teaching that that women are inferior?
You have never met my wife or you would never say that.
Remember who wrote those words and the society in which he lived. Were women subservient?
Yes. This was a perpetuation of that man's beliefs.
That our planet isn't the centre of the universe?
Sorry, do not know the origion of that one, most likely, it is due to mankind's need to be the center of attention. As a fanatic of space, i do not
abscribe to that belief.
That it wasn't created in 7 days?
A mis-translation. The origional hebrew word was Yom which can mean bot day, or era. That being the case, the world being create in 7 days or 7 eras
(not determinate as to how long the era lasts). Which is more sensible to you?
Also, you might, becareful on one other note, you automatically labled me as a christian even though, I had stayed away from promoting any religion.
As far as you knwo I could be a bhuddist monk or even a satanist.