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reply posted on 14-6-2005 @ 04:52 PM by Vinci
So, you're saying

www-pm.larc.nasa.gov...

Is fake, (along with the other hundreds upon thousands of chem pictures), and that it's clouds doing such formations, and that if it's planes, it's a total accident. Oh, and you guys think it's a HOAX, meaning some bored teen's decided to rent some planes, put in some wierd chemicals, and fly around? Ah, yes, prior to that get thier pilots license.


reply posted on 15-6-2005 @ 12:36 AM by apc
Originally posted by Vinci
Deny ignorance.

dictionary.reference.com...
ig·no·rance
n.
The condition of being uneducated, unaware, or uninformed.


No way can water crystals remain in the air for over 45 minuites, and having been spread over by wind, etc.

...


...(along with the other hundreds upon thousands of chem pictures), and that it's clouds doing such formations, and that if it's planes, it's a total accident.


And what state do you live in little boy?
'Denial.'


reply posted on 15-6-2005 @ 03:13 AM by microcosm
Ehh, read the link I included in my previous post. More specificly the part about the "hydrologic cycle".

A cloud is a visible aggregate of tiny water droplets and/or ice crystals suspended in the atmosphere and can exist in a variety of shapes and sizes.


Condensation generally occurs in the atmosphere when warm air rises, cools and looses its capacity to hold water vapor. As a result, excess water vapor condenses to form cloud droplets. The upward motions that generate clouds can be produced by convection in unstable air, convergence associated with cyclones, lifting of air by fronts and lifting over elevated topography such as mountains.


As you can see... clouds are formed by water (in one of it's 3 states) in the upper atmosphere. With that in mind...


Contrails form through the injection of water vapor into the atmosphere by exhaust fumes from a jet engine. If the surrounding air is cold enough, a state of saturation is attained and ice crystals develop, producing a contrail.


As you can now also see... contrails are formed by water vapor in the upper atmosphere as well. Clouds, and Contrails are the same, and are comparable to one another because both are a byproduct of water in the atmosphere. Contrails are most compared to "cirrus clouds".

Cirrus Clouds: The most common form of high-level clouds are thin and often wispy cirrus clouds. Typically found at heights greater than 20,000 feet (6,000 meters), cirrus clouds are composed of ice crystals that originate from the freezing of supercooled water droplets. Cirrus generally occur in fair weather and point in the direction of air movement at their elevation.

Source:
ww2010.atmos.uiuc.edu...(Gh)/wwhlpr/cirrus.rxml?hret=/guides/mtr/cld/cldtyp/oth/cntrl.rxml

As you can also see... cirrus clouds point in the direction of air movement at their elevation; which once again explanes the sometimes "sheet cloud" look of a contrail.

My only real concern about contrails is what Thomas Crowne brought up earlier... fumes from jet fuel released into the air (if its true that jet engines do release said fumes). I'm certain the fumes don't make it down to our level, but even so, that has to have a detrimental effect on the environment. That has nothing to do with gov't plots to poison you though... merely just loose regulations by the DOT when it comes to plane emissions. Surely they're not out to get you too...

[edited to fix typo]

[edit on 6/15/05 by microcosm]


reply posted on 15-6-2005 @ 03:46 AM by defcon5
Originally posted by Vinci
So, you're saying

www-pm.larc.nasa.gov...

Is fake, (along with the other hundreds upon thousands of chem pictures), and that it's clouds doing such formations, and that if it's planes, it's a total accident. Oh, and you guys think it's a HOAX, meaning some bored teen's decided to rent some planes, put in some wierd chemicals, and fly around? Ah, yes, prior to that get thier pilots license.



Lets take a look at this link:

www-pm.larc.nasa.gov... you did notice it said contrail, right?

www-pm.larc.nasa.gov...
A great merging of moist air and jet aircraft cover the South East of the
U.S with a contrail whiteout during the morning of November 10, 2004 as seen in this infrared brightness temperature difference image from the
NOAA-17 AVHRR.


Looks like a Nasa site for examining the radiation of heat from the earth due to cloud cover. Lets look at the Focus section of that site:

www-pm.larc.nasa.gov...
Dr. Patrick Minnis and David F. Young lead a team that has major research responsibilities for the development and application of advanced data analysis techniques to interpret satellite measurements of clouds and radiative characteristics of the Earth. This includes developing a globally robust technique for retrieving cloud parameters and microphysical properties. The team is involved in several field experiment programs focused on basic cloud and radiation research and on providing validation data for cloud and Earth radiation budget experiments. They perform satellite and radiative transfer studies of cirrus and marine stratocumulus clouds, and are examining radiation and its relationship to tropical convection and cirrus clouds. Recent work includes developing methods for detecting contrails from space and determining their impact on climate. Dr. Minnis and his team are also investigating methods for calibrating satellites, determining radiative flux profiles from remote sensing data, and deriving more accurate cloud properties from satellites.



Nary the word Chemtrail….Hm
Nor the mention of making any new contrails to be detected… double Hm

Don’t you think that if they were to the point of doing Chemtrail spraying, that they would already know what the outcome of this project would be? Like putting the cart before the horse if you ask me. Now if this project comes up with evidence that extra cloud cover does in fact cause the earth to radiate more heat, and it becomes an accepted fact that the Earth is getting hotter, then you can start to watch for seeding or spraying. Well at least you guys will already have a name for the process…
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