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Rep. James Sensenbrenner, R-Wis., chairman of the panel, abruptly gaveled the meeting to an end and walked out, followed by other Republicans. Sensenbrenner declared that much of the testimony, which veered into debate over the detainees at Guantanamo Bay, was irrelevant.
Originally posted by Quietsoul
How can you say that with a straight face? The very REASON the United States citizens are in Gitmo, regardless of INNOCENCE, is because of the PATRIOT ACT.
(d) The passing of sentences and the carrying out of executions without previous judgment pronounced by a regularly constituted court affording all the judicial guarantees which are recognized as indispensable by civilized peoples.
GONZALES SAYS GENEVA RESTRICTIONS ARE OBSOLETE: "The nature of the new war places a high premium on other factors, such as the ability to quickly obtain information from captured terrorists and their sponsors in order to avoid further atrocities against American civilians...In my judgment, this new paradigm renders obsolete Geneva's strict limitations on questioning of enemy prisoners and renders quaint some of its provisions."
- Alberto Gonzales, 1/25/02 (Memorandum to the President, as reported in Newsweek 5/16/04)
Jose Padilla is NOT in Gitmo and neither is any other U.S. citizen imprisioned there.
And as far as the rights of enemy soldiers captured on the battlefield their only rights are to be fed, sheltered, not killed, and not physically tortured. They should only be released after the war is over.
Originally posted by DJohnsto77
Obviously the Democrats had attempted to hijack an unrelated committee to discuss an unrelated topic. I think Sensenbrenner did the right thing here.
Tempers flared when Rep. Mike Pence, R-Ind., accused Amnesty International of endangering the lives of Americans in uniform by referring to the prison at Guantanamo Bay as a "gulag." Sensenbrenner didn't allow the Amnesty representative, Chip Pitts, to respond until Nadler raised a "point of decency."
PATRIOT Act Hearing Thursday
Focus: National Security Letters, Extraterritorial Jurisdiction,
and Material Witnesses
What: Oversight Hearing on Law Enforcement Authorities for the War on
Who: Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, and Homeland Security – Rep.
Howard Coble (R-N.C.), Chairman
When: 9:30 a.m., Thursday, May 26, 2005
Where: 2141 Rayburn Building
Thursday’s hearing will cover a number of law enforcement authorities for the War on
These authorities are not subject to sunset at the end of 2005.
Before we get too far down the "this is a GOP thingy" slippery slope.
I watched, when it started, is that the begining of the meeting?
Originally posted by the_oleneo
Straight to the point:
If YOU (non-American) are involved in al Qaeda or in any terrorist group against American interests and American lives overseas and if you got captured by the US intelligence agents, military or US authorities, you get one way trip to the GITMO. End. Of. Discussion.
If you are an American citizen involved in al Qaeda or any terrorist group against your fellow American citizens and if you got captured by the US intelligence agents, military or US authorities, you get one way trip to a FEDERAL JAIL anywhere in the US, NOT in the GITMO.
End. Of. Discussion.
The real problem is that our representatives are to busy quarreling
and vying for political power than taking care of the needs and concerns of its citizens. If our representatives do not quit acting like kids and come together and work together on our problems instead of trying to make the other party look bad we will be in very serious trouble.