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Is it possible that windows software or Pentium chips have inbuilt controls by Americas CIA?

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posted on Jun, 10 2005 @ 07:05 PM
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Just wondering if its possible for the CIA or another organization to have implanted Windows software or Pentium chips with a program to get into the computer thats using it? It would be a good way of spying as most of the worlds computers use these systems.




posted on Jun, 16 2005 @ 09:03 AM
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Originally posted by Bulldog 52
Just wondering if its possible for the CIA or another organization to have implanted Windows software or Pentium chips with a program to get into the computer thats using it? It would be a good way of spying as most of the worlds computers use these systems.

I have no doubt the US or even the UK inteligence serivces have something along those lines, it would be as you say a good way of spying.

The trouble is if a orginisation is really worried about hackers they will create thier own system "in house programming" or get a specialised company "softwar bureau" to create a secure system.



posted on Jun, 16 2005 @ 02:09 PM
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"Fill in the Blank" government or private institution........

Absolutely there is backdoor programming.......a more relevant question would be what type of information constitutes a red flag that would wave in their attention.........



posted on Jun, 16 2005 @ 02:14 PM
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So let me understand this. Now we think that Bill Gates is in with the gov't and we all have stuff on our computer to allow the gov't to follow our every move on the internet? Hmmm, doesn't this site place a few cookies on my computer??? How do I know ATS is not really a gov't run site luring me into spilling all my top secrets?

Ok, sorry for the sarcasim but really now, can you post some links for me to read up on or something? I am sure most all software and every site on the net has something to figure out what you like and don't like, how do you think we all get so much spam in our emails. But to think the gov't is targeting every person on the planet with a computer is a bit much. And if it was true, then why are all you conspiracy folks even on computers if they are so unsafe? Too many unanswered questions and inconsistancies for me yet, but I am willing to read more. Thank you.



posted on Jun, 16 2005 @ 02:20 PM
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Originally posted by MemoryShock
Absolutely there is backdoor programming.......a more relevant question would be what type of information constitutes a red flag that would wave in their attention.........


Anyone heard of Carnivore? It's a filter system. Everything we say/type is filtered through levels.



posted on Jun, 16 2005 @ 02:29 PM
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Originally posted by EastCoastKid
Anyone heard of Carnivore? It's a filter system. Everything we say/type is filtered through levels.


Never heard of it........filtered how?



posted on Jun, 16 2005 @ 02:47 PM
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Here are some links to Carnivore and Echelon. Hope it helps.




Carnivore, Sniffers, And You
Dateline: 7/19/2000

Recently the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) unveiled a new tool in their ongoing fight against crime -- a controversial network sniffer named -- you guessed it -- Carnivore. Not all of the details on Carnivore have been released yet, but already the beast has some networking professionals and privacy advocates fit to be tied!
compnetworking.about.com...



'Carnivore' Eats Your Privacy Wired News Report
Story location: www.wired.com...

10:05 AM Jul. 11, 2000 PT

WASHINGTON -- An FBI surveillance system called Carnivore is alarming privacy advocates and some members of Congress.

Agents typically install the specialized computer on the networks of Internet providers, where it intercepts all communications and records sent to or from the target of an investigation, the Wall Street Journal reported on Tuesday.
www.wired.com...


These articles are pre-Sept. 11, 2001, also. Things have only gotten worse.

[edit on 6/16/05 by EastCoastKid]



posted on Jun, 16 2005 @ 02:49 PM
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Here's another good link.



Executive Summary

In the greatest surveillance effort ever established, the US National Security Agency (NSA) has created a global spy system, codename ECHELON, which captures and analyzes virtually every phone call, fax, email and telex message sent anywhere in the world. ECHELON is controlled by the NSA and is operated in conjunction with the Government Communications Head Quarters (GCHQ) of England, the Communications Security Establishment (CSE) of Canada, the Australian Defense Security Directorate (DSD), and the General Communications Security Bureau (GCSB) of New Zealand. These organizations are bound together under a secret 1948 agreement, UKUSA, whose terms and text remain under wraps even today.
fly.hiwaay.net...



posted on Jun, 16 2005 @ 02:52 PM
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Thanks ECK.........kind of dilutes the importance of removing the library/bookstore clause from the Patriot Act, doesn't it?



posted on Jun, 16 2005 @ 02:54 PM
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Originally posted by MemoryShock
Thanks ECK.........kind of dilutes the importance of removing the library/bookstore clause from the Patriot Act, doesn't it?


Ubetcha! And well... yeah, I guess. But hey - its definitely a worthwhile start.



posted on Jun, 16 2005 @ 03:01 PM
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Originally posted by Bulldog 52
Just wondering if its possible for the CIA or another organization to have implanted Windows software or Pentium chips with a program to get into the computer thats using it?


Bulldog52

The software is vunerable, a CPU chip would not be since any hardcoded info would encrypted into one of the millions of transistors on the chip and could be either software removed or physically disabled. Most geeks could run chip info programs that would identify non-standard componets.






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