Why did Man lose over 90% of his life spand after the greate Flood

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posted on Jun, 9 2005 @ 09:56 AM
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I would like to get some input into what happen to man after the great flood that would make man lose over 90% of his life spand..

Before the flood, Man seam to live over 900 years, But now it's something great if you make it over 100 Years..

You Guys and Gals that's is heavy Science should have some great ideals on what happen to Man and the Earth During the Flood....




posted on Jun, 9 2005 @ 10:00 AM
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Trying to base natural science on biblical hearsay is like trying to learn rocket science by watching 'Spongebob Square Pants'. The Bible is more metaphorical than it is based on scientific accuracy.

It's not heavy science. It's what some monk inscribed in a book years ago. Remember, people vehemently believed that the world was still flat in these days.



posted on Jun, 9 2005 @ 10:01 AM
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I'm not 100% sure about this, but I believe that one of the reasons for the flood was that the Human race populated too profusely, and spread too wide, and lived too long, basically, biblical scholars estimate the population to be at least that of present day, but with most people living to be like 600 years old.

To fix this, God flushed the corruption from the earth, then lowered our lifespans to like 70. There's a special wording he uses that I forget, but...there you have it.



posted on Jun, 9 2005 @ 10:01 AM
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sorry, im unfamiliar with the great flood, any background information u can give? like dates of the great flood, and proof people lived 900 years? i'm not being critical here, i'm genuinely curious, i'll look into it with more information for you. but there's many floods been called the great flood all over the world! need to be mroe specific, a region would be nice to
nice post, good question!



posted on Jun, 9 2005 @ 10:02 AM
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jfdarby,
Do you have something to support the assumption that man (and woman) lived that long?
Note, please use other sources other than the bible. The reason that I ask this is that the bible, and most religious scriptures are not entirely acurate.



posted on Jun, 9 2005 @ 10:22 AM
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From what I have read, one of the most interesting aspects of the "Great Flood" story is that it exists in the legends and writing of so many prehistoric and early civilizations, not just the Old Testament.

I have often wondered if it is just a very popular parable from that time period that has managed to survive through history, or was it a real event (albeit on a smaller scale, probably), that was catastrophic enough to have been engrained on the minds of all those early people.

There was a really interesting show on TV a while back that basically said that the Black Sea was once completely dry, and that the Bosphorus and Dardanelles were a solid land mass that "broke", causing the Med to pour into the Black Sea area, flooding out thousands of people who lived there, and spawning the story of the flood. One of life's great mysteries, I guess...



posted on Jun, 9 2005 @ 10:42 AM
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Originally posted by Loki
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To fix this, God flushed the corruption from the earth, then lowered our lifespans to like 70. There's a special wording he uses that I forget, but...there you have it.


Psalm 90:10-
"10The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years, yet is their strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away."

you don't have to believe in a "Global Flood" to be a good Christian. Many Christian's believe in a local flood (like me
). The popular "Global Flood" is a relatively new interpretation....believe it or not.


The global interpretation is not the exclusive interpretation of the Noah account. A lot of people hold to the global view simply because that is what they have been taught since they were young. There is a significant opinion that insists that the flood was local, meaning it was limited to Mesopotamia. Which interpretation is consistent with what the Bible states and agrees with what science has found?

First, it is important to note that the global flood viewpoint did not achieve its current popularity until the second half of the Twentieth Century. This came after much popularization by George McCready Price who was out to disprove Darwinian evolution (the naturalistic version of origins). He believed he could explain geologic formations (which he erroneously believed to be part of naturalistic evolution) by a global flood. He was also intent on keeping with the teachings and “visions” of Seventh Day Adventist “prophetess” Ellen G. White, who preached a global flood and 24-hour creation days. Henry M. Morris and John C. Whitcomb’s book The Genesis Flood brought Price’s ideas further into the mainstream in the 1960s, because they seemed to have the respectable science background that McCready largely lacked. Source: www.geocities.com...


Here's another good read on the flood. Found at: www.godandscience.org...


When you read an English translation of the biblical account of the flood, you will undoubtedly notice many words and verses that seem to suggest that the waters covered the all of planet earth.2 However, one should note that today we look at everything from a global perspective, whereas the Bible usually refers to local geography. You may not be able to determine this fact from our English translations, so we will look at the original Hebrew, ..........
see link to read the rest


Posted by kenshiro2012
jfdarby,
Do you have something to support the assumption that man (and woman) lived that long?
Note, please use other sources other than the bible.


New Discoveries in the Biochemistry of Aging Support the Biblical Record
By Fazale R. Rana, Hugh Ross, and Richard Deem From: www.reasons.org...


Scientists have uncovered several distinct biochemical mechanisms that either cause, or are associated with, senescence (aging). Even subtle changes in cellular chemistry can be responsible for aging, and in some cases, can increase life expectancy by nearly 50%



posted on Jun, 9 2005 @ 11:05 AM
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The egyptian calander went off lunar cycles as opposed to solar. Back before the flood there is a good chance that they were going off the lunar calander. Therefore a man who lived to be 700 (lunar years) was 53/54 in solar years. Most ancient civ's went off the lunar. Quite a few native americans still go off the lunar calander. It is more accurate than the solar. Now, I recon that there is really no way to know for sure, but it seems more logical to me that they were just going off the lunar calander.



posted on Jun, 9 2005 @ 11:15 AM
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they were using a lunar calendar???
their years weren't as long?

sorry, mrsdudara, didn't notice your post, or maybe we posted about at the same time...

also, around the time of the exodus, there are susposedly records from china and other place where their calenders had to be adapted because of changes in the heavens.....remember, the sun went backwards? there could very well be a naturally explanation for their years on earth to be much more that ours....I think the lunar calendar is a pretty good guess.


[edit on 9-6-2005 by dawnstar]



posted on Jun, 9 2005 @ 11:40 AM
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Yes, many of the ancient cultures used the lunar calendar to mark the length of the year. That explaination alone though does not explain the radical difference in ages that are purported to have been in ancient times. At most, by going by a lunar calendar, the age of a person's life (based on 70 (solar years)) the person would only have been recorded as have lived for about 85-90 years.
As for the gentic link, This only play a part in how long a person lives. Environmental factors have a large role to play in how long a person lives. As well as health / medical technology.
Senescence
The link that Ren provided was a good read but leaves out a few factors such as environment and mutation.
So far, there is no records other than biblical that states man lived more than possibly 120 years.

dawnstar,
Do you have a link to show this reversal of orbital rotation? I have heard references of such but no evidence. The reason that I am asking is if there were such an occurance, there would be plenty of physical evidence to support such a theory. Such as dramatic shifts in the magnetic poles, geographical, environmental etc.



posted on Jun, 9 2005 @ 11:50 AM
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Originally posted by Simulacra
Trying to base natural science on biblical hearsay is like trying to learn rocket science by watching 'Spongebob Square Pants'. The Bible is more metaphorical than it is based on scientific accuracy.

It's not heavy science. It's what some monk inscribed in a book years ago. Remember, people vehemently believed that the world was still flat in these days.


Apparently simulacra, you haven't read the book of Job. There is PLENTY of science discussed there...



posted on Jun, 9 2005 @ 11:52 AM
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Originally posted by Loki
I'm not 100% sure about this, but I believe that one of the reasons for the flood was that the Human race populated too profusely, and spread too wide, and lived too long, basically, biblical scholars estimate the population to be at least that of present day, but with most people living to be like 600 years old.

To fix this, God flushed the corruption from the earth, then lowered our lifespans to like 70. There's a special wording he uses that I forget, but...there you have it.


The earth was cleansed the first time because of the corrupt gene pool. The fallen angels were procreating with human women. Noah and the seven others in the ark were the only ones left without "tainted" genes.



posted on Jun, 9 2005 @ 11:58 AM
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I don't know if anyone else heard this, but when I was in high school, my Religion teacher told us that before the flood it didn't rain. The earth had a protective "coating" around it made of oxygen that caused a dew like substance on the ground to water the plantlife. He also said that this coating provided huge amounts of oxygen to us, and therefore we lived for hundreds of years. When God made it rain, the protective layer was removed, and the oxygen layer evaporated, making our life span shorter. Just a story I heard but theres my 2c.



posted on Jun, 9 2005 @ 12:03 PM
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Apparently after the flood, people started counting years, not the phases of the moon as years. Maybe it was because it was so cloudy for so many days, they lost track of their traditional way of doing things. If not, then maybe Noah lost track of some critical herb or herbs that allowed people to live so long. Maybe the universal inbreeding, you know "two of each animal," was too much for the overall balance of nature.

Now do I believe in "the flood?" Not necessarily, but it does not mean I cannot answer your question with logic and reason.

[edit on 9-6-2005 by SkipShipman]



posted on Jun, 9 2005 @ 12:04 PM
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Originally posted by kenshiro2012
jfdarby,
Do you have something to support the assumption that man (and woman) lived that long?
Note, please use other sources other than the bible. The reason that I ask this is that the bible, and most religious scriptures are not entirely acurate.


What makes you think that OTHER sources will be any more "accurate"? The Bible just so happens to be THE MOST accurate book ever written. To date, all prophecies contained therein have come to pass. It is not written that EVERYONE lived to be several hundred years old...even though they may have.

Science has proven that our cells regenate themselves every seven years. The atmosphere before the flood may have been different...allowing less radiation through and thus less decay and/or entropy. God may have just decided to reduce our life span to prevent such and abomination from occurring again. Who are we to question God's motives?



posted on Jun, 9 2005 @ 12:10 PM
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Originally posted by Rren
you don't have to believe in a "Global Flood" to be a good Christian. Many Christian's believe in a local flood (like me
). The popular "Global Flood" is a relatively new interpretation....believe it or not.


There are many other civilizations of the time that report this GLOBAL flood. And to say that there wasn't, is to contradict the Word.



posted on Jun, 9 2005 @ 12:12 PM
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I believe the first flood story originated in the stories of Gilgamesh in ancient Sumeria (recall Sumerians were the first to invent writing to support their widespread trading).

The myths of Sumeria are quite interesting in their portrayal of gods, many of which spread and were adapted throughout the region. For example, some say prostitution originated in the Sumerian belief that selling onself on certain holy days to benefit the temple was something every woman should do before she died. The anger of Jesus at the temple was related to the cries of the women in mourning for Dumuzi (I think that's the god) who died and was taken into the underworld - part of the ancient rituals attendent with Sumerian religion. If they believed in mourning for Dumuzi, it's likely they also believed in sacred temple prostitution, which I doubt Jesus would have approved of if he saw it practiced in the temple of Israel.

I read a research paper somewhere once that said the reason why people lived so long in the times before the flood is that very respected people like rulers and prophets and such were given long lives (even if they didn't actually live all that long) as a sign of respect for those being spoken of, kind of like calling a king 'your highness' as a sign of respect.

Recall that much of the religious beliefs in the region were held and passed down to succeeding generations first through an oral tradition, and things could be embelished to show respect as the stories were told.

Read up on Sumeria - it's VERY interesting stuff.



posted on Jun, 9 2005 @ 12:13 PM
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That is very similar to what I perceive of the pre-flood earth, darkjedi...he broke the waters ABOVE and the waters BELOW.

You beat me to it before I could edit my post.



posted on Jun, 9 2005 @ 12:13 PM
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He started eating meat.



posted on Jun, 9 2005 @ 12:15 PM
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Originally posted by jfdarby
I would like to get some input into what happen to man after the great flood that would make man lose over 90% of his life spand..

Before the flood, Man seam to live over 900 years, But now it's something great if you make it over 100 Years..

You Guys and Gals that's is heavy Science should have some great ideals on what happen to Man and the Earth During the Flood....

Well, first of all, man didn't ever live that long. Yes, there's the Sumerian King List that shows several rulers lived an impossible 28,800 years or more, but if you add up their chronologies and compare it with the evidence, it's clearly wrong. The Bible clearly borrows from older cultures here and ascribes impossibly long lives to special people to show how special they are.
www-etcsl.orient.ox.ac.uk...

Even the Pharoahs, who had the best of food and medical treatment only had an average lifespan of 40 years:
www.free-cliffnotes.com...

Second, there was no global flood. There were some huge local ones, however. One or more of those is the basis of the Flood story (no, not every culture in the world has a flood myth. The Vikings didn't, for instance, nor did a number of other people -- including the Egyptians who were on of the first four civilizations to develop writing.)

Third, we can see by digging up human remains just what killed people and how old they were when they died. The average age at death for women was 40-something before 1900 and the average for men was about 60. Pharoh Rameses II lived to be 87 -- very unusual for those times:
www.kingtutone.com...

Here's direct archaeological research (and yes, you really can tell the age of death of someone by their bones AND the condition of their teeth.)
www.wonderquest.com...

[edit on 9-6-2005 by Byrd]





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