Okay, sorry to dredge up a topic like this, but I feel that I've got to make one last 9/11 thread, So here it is.
I'm going to just state what I believe, and Draw the logical conclusions, then I'm going to open the floor for debate. I've spent quite some time
researching this topic, and I'm ready to share my findings with you all.
What happened on September 11?
Up until June, 2001, the U.S. Air Force had a standard operating procedure to immediately intercept any hijacked airplanes and either force them to
land or shoot them down.
After June 2001, however, this procedure was changed, such that it required the approval of all of the following: PotUS, Secretary of State, and Head
of the JCoS. I'm wondering why such a life-saving standard op was made so difficult to maintain in times of need.
Here's something interesting:
Less than a year before the 9/11 terrorist attacks, soon-to-be top ranking officials of the Bush Administration (including Dick Cheney and
Donald Rumsfeld) and Jeb Bush prepared a document titled "Rebuilding America's Defenses" for the Project for the New American Century. This
document proposed a) more U.S. military bases around the world to project U.S. power; b) "regime change" in countries unfriendly to U.S. interests
including Iraq, Iran, and North Korea; and c) greatly increased military spending, especially for anti-missile systems.
It gets better, this document suggested that these things couldn't be accomplished without, and I quote, "Some catastrophic and catalyzing event,
like a new Pearl Harbor"
The morning of the attack, Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld was speaking with the press, who quoted him as saying: "Let me tell ya, I've been around
the block a few times. There will be another attack. There will be another attack."
The first plane struck the tower just moments after him saying this. Coincidence? Maybe, but I'm not convinced.
And now on to the actual collapse of the North and South Towers of the WTC...The following was taken from a letter, I found it at
The collapse of the WTC
, Here it is:
There continues to be a number of "experts" making public claims about how the WTC buildings fell. One such person, Dr. Hyman Brown from the
WTC construction crew, claims that the buildings collapsed due to fires at 2000F melting the steel (1). He states "What caused the building to
collapse is the airplane fuel…burning at 2,000 degrees Fahrenheit. The steel in that five-floor area melts." Additionally, the newspaper that
quotes him says "Just-released preliminary findings from a National Institute of Standards and Technology study of the World Trade Center collapse
support Brown’s theory."
We know that the steel components were certified to ASTM E119. The time temperature curves for this standard require the samples to be exposed to
temperatures around 2000F for several hours. And as we all agree, the steel applied met those specifications. Additionally, I think we can all agree
that even un-fireproofed steel will not melt until reaching red-hot temperatures of nearly 3000F (2). Why Dr. Brown would imply that 2000F would melt
the high-grade steel used in those buildings makes no sense at all.
Very interesting to note, and I also read evidence that suggests that these fires were unlikely to have reached even 2000C, due to the nature and fuel
for these fires, they likely reached a high point of 1500-1600 degrees Fahrenheit.
One important thing to note here, The president of Controlled Demolition, Inc. reported that clean-up crews found molten steel at the bottom of the
elevator shafts of the main towers, seven floors below the ground.
I found this next bit in an info piece about the attacks, thought it would be interesting to put up here.
Building 7 of the World Trade Center also collapsed, even though it was not hit by a plane, it was 355 feet away from the North Tower, and it
was not hit by any significant debris. Enough debris did cross over to start a small fire, yet the fire chief decided, without explanation, not to
have his men enter the building. WTC-7's sprinkler system inexplicably failed to work. Molten steel was found here as well.
Lon Rains, the editor of Space News, saw what hit the Pentagon. He Identified it as a Missile, and yet another Eyewitness identified the object as 'A
cruise missile with wings'
One big thing that's left me scratching my head from this is the official story out of the Pentagon, that the fire burned hot enough to not only
melt, but VAPORIZE many of the steel and aluminum components used in aircraft construction. Yet the bodies recovered from the 'crash' site were
supposedly identified by fingerprinting. How in the HELL did a fire burn hot enough to vaporize steel, and leave human flesh intact? Someone,
Now, more about flight 93.
United Airlines Flight 93 left Newark 41 minutes late at 8:42 am. At 9:28, Tom Burnett called his wife, telling her the plane had been hijacked. She
called the FBI, and they placed a tap on her phone to monitor all the subsequent calls. When he called again at 9:34, she told him about the WTC
attacks. Realizing that the plane was on a "suicide mission," He and other passengers decided to fight back against the hijackers, who were armed
only with knives, and not guns. Shortly after 9:47, Jeremy Glick (Another passenger) told his wife that all the male passengers had voted to attack
the hijackers. And good on them for it.
At 9:58, Todd Beamer said, while getting off his cell phone: "Are you ready guys? Let's roll." Also at 9:58, a female passenger who had phoned her
husband said: "I think they're going to do it. They're forcing their way into the cockpit." A little later she said: "They're doing it! They're
doing it!" There was then alot of screaming on the recording, followed by a whooshing sound, a sound like wind, then more screaming. Contact was soon
lost. Another passenger, calling from the restroom, reportedly said that he heard an explosion and "saw white smoke coming from the plane." The FBI
later denied this, but the person that he called was not allowed to speak to the press. The last thing heard on the cockpit voice recorder was
wind, which to me suggests that the plane had been "holed", meaning that it was hit by a missile/missiles.
And yet more:
Family of the civilians killed on Flight 93 were allowed to listen to the cockpit recording, which ends at 10:02. The plane "officially" crashed at
10:03. On the other hand, seismic readings from the area indicate that the crash happened slightly after 10:06. Then oddly, a month later on October
16, the government releases official transcripts for the other three hijacked planes, but not for Flight 93. I really do wonder why this is?
Now, same story, but now from the ground.
One witness reported hearing three "loud thumps and didn't hear the plane's engine any more." (Now remember, this is groundside) Other witnesses
heard a "loud bang" before the plane crashed. Another heard "two loud bangs" before seeing the plane start to crash. The mayor of Shanksville said
he knew of two people, one of which a Vietnam veteran, who "heard a missile." I think that this is pretty compelling, honestly.
One other intriguing thing about this, is that debris from the engine of flight 93 was found (including an badly damaged engine) a mile away, and
smaller bits found up to 8 miles away. Now what the hell is up with that, can you tell me?
These are just a few of the important (and inexplicable) details that I have found out about 9/11, and I'd like to state the following, which
indicate my beliefs on the subject.
I do not believe that this was a terrorist attack that our President knew nothing about.
I do not believe that this was solely a well-orchestrated sham by our leaders.
I believe that this was a well-orchestrated sham by our leaders, which was planned to coincide with an already=planned Terrorist attack, and exploited
by our leaders to gain the maximum of political support and maneuvering room.
I also believe that if these things come to light later as being the result of any sort of involvement by these leaders, that we should consider the
amount of suffering nationwide, when considering their punishment.
Thanks for reading, sources as follow:
[edit on 6-9-2005 by Loki]