Originally posted by menguard
No that is basic assumption, He ended with his reign.
So is the idea that the world can escape having to face the truth about WWII (and WWI) by simply laying it all upon the head of the one participant
who had the wits and foresight to escape the aftermath. And the earlier the exit...the sooner the return.
Hitler once said: 'The victor will never be asked if he told the truth.'
Did anyone ever ask Churchill if he told the truth, nothing but the truth, and the whole truth?
And even though he is now gone, too, as well as FDR and Harry Hopkins and Heinrich Himmler and Joseph Kennedy and Joseph Stalin and Chaim Weitzman and
David Ben-Gurion and Herman Hess....
....the truth (yes literal TRUTH as in factual events recorded for posterity in the form of official documents and news clippings and interviews,
remains behind as an impartial witness testifying of all the above-mentioned personages.
Churchill, in particular, spoke out of both sides of his mouth with both sides of his tongue. And he seduced FDR into supporting the war in Europe
financially even before Japan took aim at our nation...the US never had any reason to fight Churchill's war.
The War in the Pacific was ours and ours alone and our defense became victory even as we spread ourselves too thin fighting for the very crown we had
successfully freed ourselves from less than 200 years earlier.
And it is only a matter of time before it will be spread far and wide for one last propaganda fest.
The MOST effective propaganda is TRUTH.
Propaganda is simply:
1. The systematic propagation of a doctrine or cause or of information reflecting the views and interests of those advocating such a doctrine or
2. Material disseminated by the advocates or opponents of a doctrine or cause:
Now the common remembrance of the outcome of WWII is that the US and Britain saved the world and upheld freedom by defeating Germany.
And does :mkny: look like my uncle?
the eventual outcome of Russia's invasion of Germany? 30 long years of passive-aggressive warfare commonly known as the 'Cold
War.' Some victory, huh?
Especially for those poor souls who happened to live in East Berlin!
When did Germany ever threaten to invade our shores? Who made the first declaration of war in 1939? Not Hitler, not Stalin, not Hirohito.
It was Neville Chamberlain officially but unofficially it was, in part, rooted in the 1917 Balfour treaty between Arthur James Balfour (Foreign
Secretary) to Lord Rothschild (Walter Rothschild, 2nd Baron Rothschild), a leader of the British Jewish community, declaring the Sovereignty of
Palestine would be transferred to the Zionist Federation, a private Zionist organization. The only problem with such an agreement was the fact
that only a year earlier, in 1916, the British had promised the Arabs the same thing in exchange for help defeating the Ottoman Turkish forces in
Conflict of interests...leading to an intensely motivated campaign of Jewish nationalism which tragically led to great catastrophe among their own.
We reap what we sow. In DEED. And all's fair in love and war - even death is nothing more than the crossing of a threshold - one that we all have
crossed innumerable times.
So what REALLY matters? Blame? Accusations in Nuremberg? The incarceration of WWI heroes in the UK who dared speak out against a repeat of the
unspeakable carnage of the Great War? The daily violence that continues to this very day on the streets of Palestine, bringing sorrow after sorrow to
one innocent family after another?
DOES ANY OF THAT MATTER?
Yes it does. But it is not something that can be remedied by blaming dead men who cannot defend themselves and it certainly cannot be healed with
enforced misinformation in which belief is literally required by law in many countries!
What WILL help is a dispassionate examination of facts and circumstances aimed solely at closure and redemption through lessons learned...by all of
I've dug through the documents for countless hours and still there is so much I have not yet got my hands on...but the true story is there for anyone
who is willing to detach themselves and play the part of judge for a day. The double-speak speaks far louder than the quiet and consistent words of
an honorable few; yet for those who have ears to hear...the truth is loud and clear.
I would think that your 'ancients' would have considered education of these matters a top priority - after all...ones so wise as you claim surely
know the consequences of disregarding history!
All these things you speak of, menguard, are impending future perils and even present danger for us all...and yet they are just echoes upon echoes of
lessons unlearned from our collective past.
What good is being ancient if one has no recollection of what took place less than a century ago and is therefore doomed to repeat it alongside the
poor mortals who have forgotten themselves?
What good is paranormal access to information that provides nothing in the way of help but is instead dry kindling ready to burn once again?
And even though much of what I have come to understand has come through the traditional means - study - there is also a great deal that I, myself,
have personally remembered.
Both as a participant as well as an observer. And in the course of my awakening I have gotten myself a pretty decent
'network' of both new friends and long-lost companions...both in the tangible realm as well as the cosmic.
And I am more than willing to share freely all that I know and can also offer inquiry services on most things although I won't be so brash as to
guarantee anything. I will say, though, on a personal level, there hasn't been anything that I have sincerely desired to know that hasn't come
along in a timely manner...and subsequently proven in some fashion or another.
So what's say, menguard?
Wanna throw down?
My 'network' vs your 'ancients?'