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Porn Star to Attend Presidential Dinner

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posted on Jun, 8 2005 @ 09:18 PM
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www.washingtonpost.com...

On the lighter side of politics, Mary Carey is planning on attending the annual President's dinner Tuesday night. Mary Carey, some of you may remember, was one of the candidates on the ballot to replace California Governor Gray Davis. Oh yeah.....and she's a porn star.

Her attendance at the dinner is to allow her to get a feet wet in the political realm as she plans on running for lieutanent governor in California as an independent. Of course, the porn industry is a billion dollar industry and having political affiliations can't hurt, which amuses me, since it's the Republican party she'll be hobnobbing with on Tuesday.




posted on Jun, 8 2005 @ 09:25 PM
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Carey acknowledges that some people just think of her as a busty blonde who does porn films.

"I also have a brain and political aspirations," said Carey, whose priorities include legalizing gay marriage.

Carl Forti, a spokesman for the National Republican Congressional Committee, which is co-hosting the dinner, had no qualms about Carey and her boss, adult film executive Mark Kulkis, attending.

"Their money was donated to the NRCC. The NRCC's job is to elect Republicans. We'll take that money and use it to elect more Republicans," Forti said.



Money well spent. Money well spent.


You'll get that gay marriage passed in no time that way. :shk:



posted on Jun, 8 2005 @ 09:27 PM
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Well I will not hold anything against her, at least she doesn't have anything to "hide" and she has been "exposed" before



posted on Jun, 9 2005 @ 12:44 PM
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Good point, what the hell kind of scandal would it take to scandalize her!


. We'll take that money and use it to elect more Republicans," Forti said.

'But the porn industry is repugant and hateful and women are not something money should be made off of and we're going to ban and censor even more of it'



posted on Jun, 10 2005 @ 07:56 AM
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That can't be any worse than a gay male escort pretending to be a reporter covering White House press briefings.



posted on Jun, 10 2005 @ 11:05 AM
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The difference is of course that she's an actual porn star, and the 'gay prostitution ring' scandal didn't happen.



posted on Jun, 10 2005 @ 11:10 AM
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Originally posted by Nygdan
The difference is of course that she's an actual porn star, and the 'gay prostitution ring' scandal didn't happen.


Oh, yes he (Jeff Gannon/James Guckert) was very much into the gay escort business. If you don't believe me, pick up the current issue of Vanity Fair and see for yourself, amigo. Gannon's big fat mug and interview is right there for all to see.



posted on Jun, 10 2005 @ 12:45 PM
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I mean that there was a gay sex prostitution ring operating thru the white house, not that some guy used to be a gay sex prostitute.

edit to add
also, you might like this thread
www.abovetopsecret.com...'

on a similar topic. Would be interesting to have a variety of opinion on it.

[edit on 10-6-2005 by Nygdan]



posted on Jun, 10 2005 @ 03:31 PM
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Actually, there used to be.. or something close. It was during Bush I's term.. the Washington Times popped the lid onnit.

I'll check that other thread out.



posted on Jun, 10 2005 @ 06:00 PM
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Wait, the "We so holy, Now kill anyone who doesn't agree that Bush is God!!!!" are having porn stars show up? *edited crude remark*

[edit on 10-6-2005 by DontTreadOnMe]



posted on Jun, 12 2005 @ 12:02 PM
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I would much rather have a porn star then our usual chosen politicians. Time for a change. Give me a construction worker or farmer and you'll see a better country.



posted on Jun, 12 2005 @ 12:31 PM
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Originally posted by I See You
I would much rather have a porn star then our usual chosen politicians. Time for a change. Give me a construction worker or farmer and you'll see a better country.


I agree; it's about time we have less of the "elite" and more "grass route" people in charge of States, etc. They tend to be the people who understand the "real" problems that exist instead of the ones most Politicians focus on.



posted on Jun, 12 2005 @ 01:13 PM
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And yet, the question remains, how do we keep them honest once they achieve that place of power?

Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Seems none of us are immune.



posted on Jun, 12 2005 @ 01:19 PM
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Originally posted by EastCoastKid
And yet, the question remains, how do we keep them honest once they achieve that place of power?

Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Seems none of us are immune.


I like the idea that America has for the Presidents, only allowing them to sit for two terms. I think this should be placed across both Houses as well but say 4/5 terms, so that people get 16/20 years and can have 16/20 in each house. This should help to combat such a thing as they don't hold power for ever as is the case with certain people.

I also think they should be barred from holding such jobs as CIA or FBI director after being a President but that's just me and my hate for power-mongering.



posted on Jun, 12 2005 @ 01:29 PM
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Well.. as for prezidents being linked to the CIA and other such august bodies, its kind of a moot point by then. They are briefed into perpetuity over any all activity.

As for term limits, I like the idea, but at some point I changed my mind onnit. Tell me if you think this makes sense. Ultimately, I see term limits as being unconstitutional. Why? Because it should be up to the electorate to decide how many times a person represents them. Term limits takes that power away.

But I"m open to the arguments on both sides. I also hate the fact that so many people (may) go up with all the best intentions, but wind up getting so comfy and jacked on power, they never leave. If money wasn't such a massive part of that, it wouldn't be so much an issue b/c there would be a level playing field for not-so-well-known challengers.

Just my 2 cents.



posted on Jun, 12 2005 @ 03:35 PM
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Originally posted by EastCoastKid
Well.. as for prezidents being linked to the CIA and other such august bodies, its kind of a moot point by then. They are briefed into perpetuity over any all activity.


Even after they have left office? I find that rather odd... but maybe that's just me? Although getting the information does not allow them to "act" on it or have "direct" influence over the people in the CIA, etc, although they have a lot of indirect influence.

Personnally, I think it's about time we make these "Secret Services" more open. Any acts of domestic or internal terrorism, murder, etc, should be disclosed to the public now unless these "acts" are going on. I dislike the fact organizations have the right to kill people in moder times. It seems a bit...old fashioned to me.

Here's an interesting link on the Jury Trial of MLK where they found the Government guilty of involvement. www.ratical.org...


Originally posted by EastCoastKid
As for term limits, I like the idea, but at some point I changed my mind onnit. Tell me if you think this makes sense. Ultimately, I see term limits as being unconstitutional. Why? Because it should be up to the electorate to decide how many times a person represents them. Term limits takes that power away.


I understand what you mean but I dislike what goes on. In Britain there is an MP who has been in power for about 25years now, he does not live in this area of England, he is a manager or on the board for 16 compaines all the Bills he attempts to get through Parliament earn him money. (Including £30million per-new hospital built) and yet the Media, etc, do not cover this as he is friends with their owners.


Originally posted by EastCoastKid
But I"m open to the arguments on both sides. I also hate the fact that so many people (may) go up with all the best intentions, but wind up getting so comfy and jacked on power, they never leave. If money wasn't such a massive part of that, it wouldn't be so much an issue b/c there would be a level playing field for not-so-well-known challengers.

Just my 2 cents.


How much do they get paid in America? Over here it's roughly £100-£175K which is a lot but less then they earned as a Lawyer, Manager, etc.



posted on Jun, 12 2005 @ 05:50 PM
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Hey, if Monica can work( or shall I say, play) in the white house, why can't a porn star join in a dinner? I would rather have all the background stuff upfront in the beginning so that perhaps an actual political campaign can be run in this country........I know, what a concept but it still could happen.

PS.. Od......what does your avatar mean? Thanks



posted on Jun, 12 2005 @ 05:59 PM
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Originally posted by Odium

Originally posted by EastCoastKid
Well.. as for prezidents being linked to the CIA and other such august bodies, its kind of a moot point by then. They are briefed into perpetuity over any all activity.


Even after they have left office? I find that rather odd... but maybe that's just me?


Not just you......it is odd.......couldn't find a link, but ex-Presidents can have access to CIA happen'ens for the rest of their civilian life. I think that is pretty lame and I believe(correct me if I'm wrong, ECK) that tBush senior was the one who helped institute the policy.........as former CIA head honcho, it would appear that he couldn't be without federal resources, you know, with all his personal oil interests and such........it's good to hear about national intelligence before the rest of the world........


Originally posted by Odium
Personnally, I think it's about time we make these "Secret Services" more open.


I agree, but that is a very sensitive topic.........what would the world have been like if MK-Ultra was known publicly rather than thirtyyears after the fact?



posted on Jun, 12 2005 @ 06:56 PM
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Originally posted by Memorialday1999
PS.. Od......what does your avatar mean? Thanks


Ahh...my Avatar is the Cross of Saint Peter:

"St Peter's Cross is an inverted cross often associated with Satanism. According to popular belief, the cross is a symbol of inverted grace, or falling away from Christ's grace. However the origins of this little known Christagram is that it represents the legend that states St Peter was crucified upside down, as he felt he was unworthy to be crucified in the same manner that Christ died (upright). It is often used with two keys, symbolizing the keys of heaven."
Cross of St. Peter

I'm Russia (third Generation) and named Pyotr (Peter) after St. Peter, as my Father was by his Father (My Grand-father) as my Grand-Father was born in St. Petersburg. It's somewhat a mark of how I wish to do something with my life but not die a martyr because I'm not worthy of such a thing. (Kind of the ultimate repentence in a way even though I'm not christian.)


Originally posted by EastCoastKid
Well.. as for prezidents being linked to the CIA and other such august bodies, its kind of a moot point by then. They are briefed into perpetuity over any all activity.


Originally posted by Odium
Even after they have left office? I find that rather odd... but maybe that's
just me?


Originally posted by MemoryShock
Not just you......it is odd.......couldn't find a link, but ex-Presidents can have access to CIA happen'ens for the rest of their civilian life. I think that is pretty lame and I believe(correct me if I'm wrong, ECK) that tBush senior was the one who helped institute the policy.........as former CIA head honcho, it would appear that he couldn't be without federal resources, you know, with all his personal oil interests and such........it's good to hear about national intelligence before the rest of the world........


That I really do not agree with, if such issues can't be known by the General Public after an event why is a former President above us? Especially when it is going to be so easily abused.


Originally posted by Odium
Personnally, I think it's about time we make these "Secret Services" more open.


Originally posted by MemoryShock
I agree, but that is a very sensitive topic.........what would the world have been like if MK-Ultra was known publicly rather than thirtyyears after the fact?


MKUltra was mind control right?

I guess it in the "short term" would cause problems as the "public" would be over-whelmed by the transparency that is beginning and also what they are learning but in the long term it would be a lot better. If say in 2025 when MLK and X's documents get published (which is when they have to) and it is found the Government had a hand in these murders I think we might well see a rift in America and its Society once more like their was in the 1950's couple that with the fact that some of the same people are still in power and their kids are still in power well then...there could be a lot of problems.

On the other hand if they disclose everything bring the real people to justice and do what is needed I think they can stop a potential problem the likes of which America probably has not seen or the world. I mean the evidence the Jury got which wasn't the full CIA files and actions got them to say the Government were invovled the real documents must be...somewhat "destructive" to the organization.



posted on Jun, 12 2005 @ 07:15 PM
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Originally posted by Odium


Originally posted by MemoryShock
Not just you......it is odd.......couldn't find a link, but ex-Presidents can have access to CIA happen'ens for the rest of their civilian life. I think that is pretty lame and I believe(correct me if I'm wrong, ECK) that tBush senior was the one who helped institute the policy.........as former CIA head honcho, it would appear that he couldn't be without federal resources, you know, with all his personal oil interests and such........it's good to hear about national intelligence before the rest of the world........


Originally posted by Odium
That I really do not agree with, if such issues can't be known by the General Public after an event why is a former President above us? Especially when it is going to be so easily abused.


I apologize.....my response was meant to be sarcasm, which isn't clear.....I agree with you.....


Originally posted by Odium
MKUltra was mind control right?


Yes. The point is that, the current level of education of the population as opposed to those involved in government research, almost regardless of the field, is very different. If the popular mediums of America(my reference point) can be used to assert anything, it's that the population is being exposed to mostly social gossip and issues that center on the ethics and various philisophical dogmas. This doesn't seem like anything important right off, but it is..........not to say that ethics are unimpoirtant, but the perpetual reasoning of whether it's right or wrong with most of the supporting logic being derived religious and philisophical standards doesn't usually include the details of a subject.

For example: The debates centered around stem cell research........the majority of people are familiar with the "should we or should we not" arguements as it relates to abortion and the morality of it.........the specifics of the science are kept out of the discussion because it could lead to a more informed opinion, a rush for actual knowledge when those previously unaware realize the implications, and a reconsideration of morals and ethics........stem cell reseach is a physical world manipulation and the powers that be are going to understand it regardless of the moral stance of the average joe.......

Not that I'm against a more lucid public, I am just concerned with the rate of disclosure, should it occur. I think alot of people would encounter future shock if all secret documents were publisized



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