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Tanks In The Streets Of New York

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posted on Jun, 8 2005 @ 09:27 PM
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All this over a couple of tank, wow people are really paranoid.

Please don't take offense to that, that was my self talking to my self AHHH now I'm paranoid... thanks a lot.




posted on Jun, 8 2005 @ 09:34 PM
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This is nothing man.

I've lived in New York my entire life... and the worst I've seen paranoia hit NYC was when there were a number of letters being sent to senators with anthrax in them.


People refused to open their mail, and if they did, they'd try to iron, or microwave it first. My brother is a cop at the 13th Pct, and he said he'd get atleast 20 people a day coming up to him to ask him to open their mail. He'd have to assure them that the terrorist we're not after them. The terrorist were after senators, and high profile targets, not deli owners... unfortunately the news hyped it up to new levels... they were making it sound as if anthrax letters were falling out of the sky... "Lock your doors! Ducktape your mail slots!"

[edit on 6/8/05 by microcosm]



posted on Jun, 8 2005 @ 09:49 PM
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Tanks, for the memories.

I would guess, that the tanks were just being moved somewhere else, and NYC just got in the way.



posted on Jun, 8 2005 @ 09:52 PM
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You might want to stand right in front of them; it worked at Tien Amin. At least it might slow them down.



posted on Jun, 9 2005 @ 12:29 AM
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You should see the armored vehicle that sits at a garage near the police academy building. Now that would startle you! It doesn't do much street time though and is rather old looking. Oh and it's blue, not green lol.

As some people have alluded to, New Yorkers do have a knack for making light of anything. We tend to see more things than the average person. A cowboy in his underwear in Times Square. Mimes, jugglers, people pretending to be statues or robots. And I'm only describing one block of Manhattan real estate on a typical summer afternoon. We don't get shocked by much, including a light armored vehicle floating up 7th ave.

The picture looks to me like it was indeed taken on 7th up near the Sheraton. The taxi sign threw me off for a moment thinking it was near Penn Station, but then I remembered there is one on the corner of either 53rd or 54th. I don't doubt the authenticity of the photo, just the motives Mr Jones had for posting it.

A few short weeks ago the Blue Angels buzzed Manhattan with a bunch of jets. They had a lot of activities for fleet week and theoretically I suppose someone could call that a "prelude to martial law" as well. It all depends on your outlook on life.

There do exist those who will do their best to make nothing into something at whatever the cost, including their own well being. Make no mistake, walking around New York City looking for things to drive yourself nuts with will be the undoing of even the strongest willed person. There is simply too much going on.

By the way, cops with machine guns are a semi frequent sight. Go to an airport, anything near Wall Street, occasionally Grand Central or Times Square. There are certain divisions of the NYPD that brandish those weapons at areas deemed high risk, primarily as a deterrent. Some cities have SWAT, we have ESU and the Atlas program. Go google Atlas, you'll find reference to the Hercules teams which are all armed with heavier weaponry. There's lots of special units here, this isn't Mayberry,NC you know.



posted on Jun, 9 2005 @ 10:11 AM
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Originally posted by zerotime
It really isn't that strange of a day or age. This is just a strange forum. Many posters come here to fulfill their fantasies.

Congrats!
You win the Post Of The Year Award, and it's only June!
You couldn't be more correct.



***
Is there a rule about posting purposly misleading titles?



posted on Jun, 9 2005 @ 10:14 AM
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i wasn't aware of this!?!?!?

good thread






posted on Jun, 9 2005 @ 10:16 AM
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They were most likely in the streets as part of a recruiting gimmick. They have "GO ARMY" brand Humvees all over the place in NYC now as part of the recruiting drive.

-koji K.



posted on Jun, 9 2005 @ 11:06 AM
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In terms of military/paramilitary pressence, NYC has Hercules Squads.




Small teams of extremely heavily armed Police Officers that patrol and guard locations, like subways, and such. They're actually not a large group, but the City keeps them visibile by having them move to new locations a lot. So, in part, the idea is to present a pressence to the public, to let them know that there is Heavy Protection around. Because people will be walking around the subways and trainstations or finincial buildings and think 'gosh, that'd be easy to blow up, where the hell is the protection, isn't anyone thinking!'.

Anyway, there are also flat out US military officers present too (national guard from what I gather). So its not surprising that there are also military vehicles. That thing, its not a tank, its a military personell carrier. Its mean looking and imposing, but, well, what are they supposed to use, taxis? Unmarked suburbans?

So there are two points here:

  1. If anything, the pressence of army personell and heavily armed police everyhwere is far more disturbing than them using an apc to get around
  2. Its just an armoured vehicle, if the military is in the city, then military vehicles are going to be in the city


Also, the military has been in NYC for a long time,long before 911. Fort Hamilton is one of the US Army forts there, and they undoubtedly have military vehicles. Keep in mind, we are talking about military vehicles here, not even an actual tank.

The NYPD has large armoured vehicles too:


Below, for reference, is an APC, despite the fact that it may look like a tank.
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Tho it looks like the vehicles in question have been id'd as Marine transports.



posted on Jun, 9 2005 @ 11:22 AM
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The Stryker is a WHEELED vehicle, and though looks like a tank, it's perfectly suitable for street driving. You may remember it as the one being fitted with "slat" armor to better stand up to insurgent RPGs...


I'm pretty sure that's what we're seeing in those pics...



posted on Jun, 9 2005 @ 11:36 AM
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Originally posted by Djarums
Good question. I wouldn't have bothered to ask for it. You're on record with H.R. at your main office anyways. They could've gotten it straight from them much more easily and faster... That is definitely strange that they would pose the question to you like that.


Unless they have reason to suspect someone took a job with the toll authority and has ulterior motives. The reason for asking people in a training class might be to compare answers with what's on file or flush someone out. Just a thought.



posted on Jun, 9 2005 @ 11:44 AM
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What you see in those pictures is a LAV-25 and a HUMVEE. They are used by the Marine Corps. Both have very light armour and rubber wheels. They can are actually made to run on roads. They both have headlights and brake lights. Those vehicles are not on patrol. They are being driven to another base. It is much easier to do that than to pack them up on large trucks and trailers. I've seen military vehicles driving to other bases several times over the years. Not patrols, not take over.



posted on Jun, 9 2005 @ 02:11 PM
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Nygdan, the picture you posted of the "APC" is actually a picture or an "IFV". An "APC" would be something like the M113.



posted on Jun, 9 2005 @ 03:55 PM
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have you seen the limosuine car in that photo? maybe it's some diplomat or something.. do u think the NWO is coming people? i doh think so, not in a while.. not just yet, if it does indeed exisist why did not implement it sooner with having to deal with all these problems, like terror, etc.. could someone answer me that?



posted on Jun, 9 2005 @ 06:44 PM
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Originally posted by backtoreality

Originally posted by dgtempe
OK. I suppose some of you think they're protecting us..or doing "exercises"


Please understand what is happening, wont you?



Please enlighten us, won't you?

And cite your sources.
If you need enlightment you have lived under a rock for years. I dont have much time to devote to the past 4 years right now, thread by thread, item by item, (there are now millions of them)- You dont have tanks running around the hub of the world for nothing. Is it to get us used to "seeing" them? could be. Its visual brain washing of sorts...for better things to come...Of course, this is just an opinion of mine, and a remindedr to me that i lived for years in a country with tanks running up and down the streets when i was little. Oh yea, its not a good omen. No links, sorry.



posted on Jun, 9 2005 @ 07:17 PM
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I was always under the impression that this was how it worked?

You get the people used to an idea then little by little you chip at it, enforcing it, slowly until bang - it is too late.

I myself have never seen an APC in London, Birmingham, Oxford or Wolverhampton in England and I am in one of those areas every couple of days. Either for work, play or my lovely education. I myself find it odd to see an APC in the streets although I do like the idea of armed police units instead of un-armed. (guns).



posted on Jun, 9 2005 @ 10:39 PM
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Originally posted by centurion1211

Originally posted by dgtempe
OK. I suppose some of you think they're protecting us..or doing "exercises"


Please understand what is happening, wont you?


Let's see... DG from Tempe, AZ is now also an expert on everything that goes on in New York City and what it all means?

Yeah, right.
Wrong. Cape Cod. if you must know
Do i have to be from New York to understand this is all in preparation for Marshall Law and the NWO? I dont think so.



posted on Jun, 9 2005 @ 10:53 PM
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quote: Originally posted by zerotime
It really isn't that strange of a day or age. This is just a strange forum. Many posters come here to fulfill their fantasies.



I have to agree 100%.

This isn't the first time I've seen military vehicles in the streets of NYC either...

Sadly enough though... no matter what the military does... someone will be banging the drum, yelling martial law! martial law! Head for the hills!

I don't think the military could have done anything at all to avoid the screams of martial law.

If the military drives this prefectly street legal vehicle down the street it's martial law...
If the military were transporting this vehicle by flat bed it's martial law...
If the military somehow air lifted it by helicopter it's martial law...
If a cop holds anything more than a glock it's martial law...
If an NYPD ESU truck is seen it's mental conditioning for the soon to be NWO take over.

I can only imagine if you guys were out on long island... you'ld see a Coast Guard Cutter, or a Coast Guard jayhawk/ANG helicopter doing patrols, and start posting about the naval blockades on the south shore.


also




You have voted zerotime for the Way Above Top Secret award. You have one more vote left for this month.


What you said is so so true.

[edit on 6/10/05 by microcosm]



posted on Jun, 10 2005 @ 01:18 AM
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Originally posted by Odium
I was always under the impression that this was how it worked?

You get the people used to an idea then little by little you chip at it, enforcing it, slowly until bang - it is too late.

I myself have never seen an APC in London, Birmingham, Oxford or Wolverhampton in England and I am in one of those areas every couple of days. Either for work, play or my lovely education. I myself find it odd to see an APC in the streets although I do like the idea of armed police units instead of un-armed. (guns).


It is somewhat different in the United States.



posted on Jun, 10 2005 @ 12:43 PM
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Originally posted by jetsetter
Nygdan, the picture you posted of the "APC" is actually a picture or an "IFV". An "APC" would be something like the M113.

Interesting. I had considered just calling it a Bradely.

To me, the Bradely is something that, if I saw it screaming by and firing its cannon, i'd say 'look out for that tank!', but of course its not actually a tank.


dgtempe
Wrong. Cape Cod.

Hmm, cape cod, I might actually be visiting there this weekend. Maybe we can meet up and scream at each other while bangin our heads against a wall. You know, a sort of ATS in real life!
(of course I jest and don't actually suggest a meeting)


microcosm
Sadly enough though... no matter what the military does... someone will be banging the drum, yelling martial law! martial law! Head for the hills!

Forget the vehicles, there's a military NWO base in Brooklyn!! Gack! They've set up camp! [/sarcasm]




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