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Amazing Alien Autopsy Fake

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posted on Jun, 8 2005 @ 06:20 AM
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Makes you think that if this can be done in 2000, then surely the Roswell Autopsy could have been done in the 90's and shot on original film from the 40's?? This one looks even better IMO.

www.ufowatchdog.com...





[edit on 8-6-2005 by TheShroudOfMemphis]




posted on Jun, 8 2005 @ 06:38 AM
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Those are amazing images... I know one of them (the headshot) but i never saw the other ones... Great post..

And in response on your question: I think they could do in the 90, and with the old film they used the details could be unnoticed by the viewer...

Very cool....



posted on Jun, 8 2005 @ 06:43 AM
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Originally posted by sebastiaan
Those are amazing images... I know one of them (the headshot) but i never saw the other ones... Great post..

And in response on your question: I think they could do in the 90, and with the old film they used the details could be unnoticed by the viewer...

Very cool....


Yeah, i'd only ever seen the head shot and always thought that was one of the best looking 'alien heads' i've ever seen. I always thought it must be a fake because it was just too good and looked like a digital photo, making it pretty recent but even as a fake it looked really well researched and what i'd expect an alien in that position to look like.



posted on Jun, 8 2005 @ 07:04 AM
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Cool! Great pics

I agree that that the Roswell film could have been done in the nineties, definitly, not sure if i believe it was though.
I have always thought it was a fake, made in the 40's.



posted on Jun, 8 2005 @ 07:36 AM
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One thing to clear up...

There is NO proof that the alien autopsy film was shot in the 40's.

The two sample frames given to Kodak did test as being appropriate for the era, but if you've ever SEEN those frames, you'll note that they depict NOTHING shown as part of the film. The two frames feature a hallway, and stairs. So, there is nothing linking those two frames and the alien autopsy film, other than that they came from the same person.

There are still points to be made on either side, but to me, the evidence is strongly towards the "hoax" side. However, organized disinfo, or Cosmic Journey motives may also be the reasons for creating the hoax...who knows?

This other attempt is pretty good, and some nice work, though they should have done more homework, and made the mouth have a hard, gum-like ridge, versus teeth....


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posted on Jun, 8 2005 @ 08:02 AM
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Wow, this just shows just about anything can be produced. This day in age, how will we know for sure that anything is real?

I also think the original alien autopsy was a hoax, but possibly a remake of the real thing. Someone went to a lot of trouble and expense to produce it, yet no one has claimed that they did it yet. I think whoever did it had detailed information in order to make it believable, but left in enough falsehood to also make it questionable. I believe there was a Cosmic Journey type motive behind it, but don’t know for sure.



posted on Jun, 8 2005 @ 08:33 AM
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nice pics
I borrowed one for my latest avatar



posted on Jun, 8 2005 @ 09:12 AM
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Originally posted by Gazrok
This other attempt is pretty good, and some nice work, though they should have done more homework, and made the mouth have a hard, gum-like ridge, versus teeth....


[edit on 8-6-2005 by Gazrok]


Hehe, yeah also thought about that acctually.



posted on Jun, 8 2005 @ 03:49 PM
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imagine waking up and seeing one of those things in your room.

lmao


creepy looking. excellent work.



posted on Jun, 8 2005 @ 07:01 PM
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I agree that the film in question has not been proven to have been made in the 1940s.

However, the original comment in this thread could not happen. Film from the 1940s could not be any good today, no matter how it was stored. Film today has a much longer shelf-life but back then it did not last all that long even unused.

What we could do back then (40s) kinda limits the possibilities. To me if the footage is ever proven to be from that time period then it must be real. We could not produce a fake that good back then.



A.T
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posted on Jun, 12 2005 @ 10:50 PM
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THE ROSWELL ALIEN AUTOPSY


The classic 'Roswell Autopsy Alien'.


The "control panels."
"In the debris footage, a faceless man displays various metallic-looking artifacts, including large I-beams and the aforementioned control panels, one of which is jaggedly broken, revealing what might be layered circuitboard (or its alien equivalent). "


[my comment] - i guess if the thing was real, you'd probably not kiss it



"A still from the video interview with the alleged alien autopsy cameraman. Do you recognise this man?"


"Sgt Clifford Stone (US Army retired) who claims to have viewed scenes from the alien autopsy film while serving with the US Army in l969."


"Ray Santilli pictured in 1995 holding a canister of the alleged alien autopsy film."


"A recreation of the alien autopsy film by the special effects company TWIN FX in Canada. This was made for a Canadian TV documentary to show how the alien autopsy film could have been faked. "

Referenced Site:
ufocasebook.com...

KNOWN FAKE

'J-Rod' Alien Autopsy
More Images at: www.ufowatchdog.com...


" It was indeed made by XFX team, Steve Johnson and Trey Stokes. It was featured on a reproduction of the ALien Autopsy on a 20/20 show, aired on April 4, 1997. That particularimage was featured on XFX website, as you may remember, some years ago. All the credit for collecting and archiving these images, as well for the info, go to the Mexican researcher Luis Ruiz Noguez. "

UNKNOWN (first time i've seen these ones)

In November 1966 in the country close to a small village called Otocek of the former Yugoslavian Federation, a flying object crashed and the extraterrestrial being of the picture above was extracted . The event was soon put under silence, pretending the crash was the result of an highly secret military .

The body, partially burned, was said to be the one of a pilot of the Air Force. They said it was deformed by flames and heat. The darkness of the night helped the military authorities to pass this thesis for believable. The extraterrestrial being was immediately taken to Belgrade, with an ambulance of the Army, and in the Capital it was assigned to a Military Hospital. In a few hours, some of the most important scientists of Yugoslavia started to examine the corpse.

Among the scientists, three were the doctors that led the autopsy: the surgeon Andrej Zobol and the two pathologists Nikola Jullic and Zoran Frederic. The three were proved to be strictly linked to the Government.

In the following pictures, you can see some of the most significant moments of the autopsy.


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"In 1999 the pictures have been passed secretly to the author by the nephew of one of the doctors, that is living now in Slovenia, very close to the Italian border. In 1966 neither the USA nor the USSR knew of this event thanks to the fact that Yugoslavia was a Socialist Country, but it was not aligned and it was neutral, far from the frictions of the Cold war."

Source: members.xoom.virgilio.it...







posted on Jun, 12 2005 @ 11:21 PM
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Those control panels have always been a question with me. Of course not all parts of a film like this need be real. The possibility that these panels were produced and added by humans to protect what was shown in the rest of the film must be considered.

But at the time, I just do not think we were either that smart, or that careful.

I realize that except possible for a few pictures, all I have ever seen are 'fake' alien devices from movies to TV. And since I like SF in general that means I have seen a whole lot of fictional alien technology. And with all that hardware being created it is quite possible that some of it will eventually turn out to be similar to actual alien tech, at least in visual appearance. How this might happen now and again is a topic for Paranormal but the possibility has to be considered.

Black and White simply does not reveal the kind of detail that I wish I could see of anything like these control panels. But I do have one not-totally-confirmed big of data that did stun me. The panels, the way the hands lie in them, are rather ergonomic. There is the possibility that somehow some human accidentally created them in this way but that seems rather slim. In 1940 I do not think the word ergonomic even existed and we knew next to nothing about it.

So dammit if they do not look like something some kid made with clay, but does that really mean anything in this context? I think it does not, and I came to the conclusion long ago that most humans, myself included, have a lot to overcome to be able to really recognize the real from the fake.

One other thing, for those who care, and if you do not, please do not tell me about it.

When I look at the photos from the AA film, I feel a person that was once alive. It is the same feeling I get from any other corpse. I could be wrong, this is a subtle business and it is hard to work from a photograph. So many emotions are connected to something like this, and frankly anything at all along the inner bloody biological line makes me a bit uneasy. None of the other pictures in this thread touch me at all, but I cannot see the ones from Russia for some reasion so I know nothing about those yet.


A.T
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[edit on 6/13/05 by Alexander Tau]



posted on Jun, 13 2005 @ 01:20 AM
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What is a "Cosmic Journey motive"? I do not undestand this phrase.




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