Or about anyone else for that matter. If it was just a case of you lot keeping to yourselves over there, no problem. Only you have a nasty
habit of inflicting yourselves on the rest of the world.
Did America force any nation to join us? They all came out of their own free will. If people in those nations don't like that, tell them to take
responsibility and elect a government that won't do it again.
What did France do to you in recent times except disagree with your desire for pushing through an unjust war/pillaging exhibition??
1-France had been undermining everything America has done with Iraq throughout the 90's. They continued to sell weapons to Iraq, they bought oil from
Iraq, their officials excepted gifts from Saddam, and they actively pushed to get sanctions lifted from Iraq.
2-France has attempted (and thankfully failed for the time being) to lift the weapons embargo on China.
3-France opposed America's attempts to act against Sudan; a nation they happen to buy oil and sell weapons to.
4-They've supported genocide in Rwanda. They armed and trained the militia that carried it out. Their troops sat back and watched as it happened.
They allowed, and maybe even aided in their escape, and may even be protecting some still.
5-Chirac has openly critiscised America's AIDs policy, while at the same time they give less aid than us, and have now proposed an international tax
on the matter.
6-While on a visit to China, Chirac openly stated that it is up to China and Europe to oppose not only American policy in the world, but also the
spread of American culture.
And all of that is recent. Although, I view most French policy in the past 40 or so years to be simply about opposing America in the world. Out of all
the nations in the world, I think France is the one that has the least reason to act against America. It seems to be inspired by nothing but
True enough. So why do you think Bush is met with such hatred around the world? I suppose that is Chirac's fault?
Bush is met with such hatred in Western Europe (I refuse to say that's how the world feels) because we are the easy target. Europe has numerous
problems of their own that only continue to grow, and politicians like Chirac have only added to them. It becomes easier for people in Western Europe
to look for someone else to blame, and their politicians haven't exactly helped matters here.
It's no coincidence that most foreign media outlets spend most of their time talking about American politics instead of their own. Even Passer By in
another topic stated that they sometimes get distracted by national events (which in Canada's case, could only really mean American politics) and
often times ignore their own problems.
First off I wouldn't say any great anto-european propaganda is in effect. More like a mis-direction of the public's focus. The fact that
American media doesn't touch international news as you say, is a cause of great worry for the rest of us.
Yet you stated that America's government/media were using hatred of Europe to distract the people of America...
How can you possibly expect the public to have a fair and balanced view when the only international news portrays the rest of the world in a
negative light? I am sure if anything about the rest of the world makes the evening news in the US it will be anti-american sentiment.
How can Europe expect to have a fair and balanced view when their media outlets spend most of their time talking about America, and pretty much always
the bad things with America?
Very little is talked about international views in America at all, except for how much division there is between it, and it's mostly passed off
purely because of Bush's policy. Most of it does not have the spin that these people are opposing us, by that Bush and America are wrong.
And Europe is often times held up on some sort of pedestal to Americans by our media (along with Canada). We have a liberal press here in America
whether you know it or not, and whether people are willing to admit it or not. They would like nothing better then for us to become more like Europe
I just flicked through some of the major news websites to make sure, but America wasn't very high in the headlines anywhere. There are other
things going on in the world, so get down off your high horse
Really? On the BBC right now, some of the top stories are:
-Iraqi police discover 20 bodies
-Freed journalist back in France
-Five charged over Afghan kidnap
-Painful past: Mississippi braces for trial over 1964 killing of civil rights workers
-'Freedom fries' congressman has change of heart
The only three stories really above these are bombs going off in Iran because they are about to have an election, a vote in Italy, and the results of
another series of elections in Lebanon.
Though, if you did have some more international news you might actually know there are more important things going on in the world. Except your
news networks don't care. Why do you think that is?
America is a nation that cares little about what goes on in the rest of the world. The people of this nation still largely would prefer to not
intervene or bother with world politics.
Quite frankly, that's a good thing.
Do a search for "tulipwalkers" on ATS and count the threads....As you already said, you'd love to see all the anti-European sentiment but as
you also said your news networks don't bother with international news, so that's just too bad. If the US wasn't so insular as a country things
might be different!
Our media reports the important international news. We report the same stuff European news outletts report when they aren't talking about American
politics (which is usually about as national as European coverage gets) or their own internal affairs.
And the majority of threads on this forum are not about European problems. How many topics are actually started to rant and rave about what Europe
does in the world?
I'd like to read more about that, got any links? Sounds interesting.
Yes, Fox News, the epitomy of professional broadcast news.
More rhetoric with nothing to back it up...Have any examples of Fox News bias?
The "countless" studies of course carried out by Fox no doubt. Or some other totally unbiased source.
Hardly. Studies done by the likes of Yale and Stanford. Numerous poles done over the past thirty years show about a 4:1 difference between the number
of liberal journalists to conservative.
I am not going to argue with you about Bush. All politicians, american, european, whatever are crooks and by job definition are liars. Evil,
of course, is a matter of perspective.
Then how about you people start giving the same treatment to European politicians who commit wrongs?
What I will argue with you is that America is wrong by not opening their eyes and ears and comprehending what the rest of the world is trying
to tell you. And for that we are bashed as liberal, cowardly, tulip-walking, cheese-eating surrender monkeys.
What about the nations in the world that agree with us? Why are they ignored? Could it be simply because they tend to be poorer Eastern European
countries, or those in Asia, or those in Africa?
It's amazing that the poorer nations seem to prefer America over Europe.